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Old 01-26-2011, 05:16 AM
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Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:27 AM
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Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
If they did, they would have a gaping hole in their route network. They would need to pull down at least two to three bases to make the network have any efficiency. She's an old bird, but she is part of our fleet backbone.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
Delta didn't furlough in 2008 during the oil spike to $147/barrel, but they easily could have furloughed. They've contained capacity, making a $1.4B profit for 2010. DAL has over 3,000 retirements scheduled in the next 10 years; 6,000 in the next 15 years. I think you'd be in good shape.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
Ahh come one now, the 88 is like the neighborhood MILF.
Sure she's been around the block more than a few times and you'll probably more than likely catch something from her, but the old gal still has a few years on her.
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal View Post
Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
What are your other options that you are going to compare this possibility to?
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90 View Post
Delta didn't furlough in 2008 during the oil spike to $147/barrel, but they easily could have furloughed. They've contained capacity, making a $1.4B profit for 2010. DAL has over 3,000 retirements scheduled in the next 10 years; 6,000 in the next 15 years. I think you'd be in good shape.
Yep-I'd be more concerned about the company trying to keep up with hiring for a looong time.
and I think it's more like 6K in the next 10 (more if the stock market does well.)
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Old 01-26-2011, 05:45 AM
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What are your other options that you are going to compare this possibility to?
Staying at a profitable international airline based in the fragrant harbor.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:18 AM
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Staying at a profitable international airline based in the fragrant harbor.
Well, Delta is a profitable airline located in the fragrant South.
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:36 AM
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Well, Delta is a profitable airline located in the fragrant South.


Bless your heart.



(When I moved here I learned my neighbor wasn't really being nice when she said this)
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Old 01-26-2011, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg View Post
well according to the PWA, there really are only two:

1) Delta code placed on AS is limited to 85 seats. (50% of seats on smaller jets)

2) AS cannot fly more than 25% of the DAL hub-to-hub flights
(for comparison DCI is limited to 6% of hub-to-hub flights)


That's it.
Everything else is permitted.

For instance: Nothing in our PWA prohibits AS from operating an A330 HNL-NRT except the DAL code would be limited to 85 seats.

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Hmmmmm I'd say AS is doing an awful lot of LAX - SEA last I checked SEA and LAX are hubs. I am certain we sell seats on 100% of those flights, am I missing something here?

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