Of course ALPA is responsible. Without caving in during BK and good old "constructive engagement" keeping our pay far lower than it should be, there would be less profits to share. Some people are sooooo ungrateful.

Carl

So if in your view ALPA hadn't "caved" and kept the pay far higher and there had been no profit sharing...how would the dues have worked out on the higher pay? Let's call it 6.52% higher so the math is easy for you, groundskeeper.

02-13-2011 | 09:12 AM

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Seriously folks.

Simply put, ALPA dues are 1.95% of your pay..... The profit sharing is part of your pay.

Its like saying "ALPA should take dues from my pay, but only 93.5% of my pay".

02-13-2011 | 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat

If ACMI charter crews are pushed beyond their limits, and I would argue that they are not since I spent 20 years flying similar schedules under the same guidelines, wouldn't the White House, Congress, the Senate and the Pentagon also be complicit? Don't know why your singling out Inhofe because he made a stupid decision in his Cessna.

As I recall, max augmented crew day on the Lizard was 24 hrs. I left MAC in '85, so that may have changed.

Contrast that with my longest Atlas day: 35 hrs Sao Paulo - Lima - Mexico City - LAX with extended sits at each stop, making it all perfectly legal. I was an FO at the time and the Capt fended off our mutinous desires.

02-13-2011 | 09:18 AM

#59404

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

for anyone getting ready for mad dog school, no 90 differences on the systems eval

a 9 with an fms, moving map and better trips.

We have a moving map?!? Is that what that thing behind the yoke stands in front of?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kargo

. is it a dream or am i going to be flying the same 9 trips in 12-18 after they get rid of the "classic"?

Never really looked at a 9 bid packet but to be honest we better hope that once the 9s are gone that the 88 is doing those trips.

Just pray they're better constructed but that they are ours and not theirs...

or theirs...

^^ damn good looking jet. So glad we have so many pilots who don't want to fly them STILL. insert rolleyes here. ^^

and for now whose responsibility is that? DALPA. Then in 2012, ours.

02-13-2011 | 09:28 AM

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Profit sharing breakdown is on DeltaNet.

02-13-2011 | 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by slowplay

Which came first...the ALPA profit sharing plan or the Delta non-contract plan (same w/ merger equity and bankruptcy equity claim, too).

obtw, did you notice that not all FA's and Agents got the same profit sharing you did...because of what their bargaining agent negotiated? You might want to reread what DennyCrane wrote.

I don't want ALPA taking dues out of profit sharing. Is that clear enough? Stay on topic. I know they can, but I don't like it.

02-13-2011 | 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by contrails

Buzz,

Do you think 30 hours on duty is acceptable for civilian ops?

No, I'm just wondering why Inhofe is to blame because he can't fly his Cessna? Seems a bit of a stretch to me.

02-13-2011 | 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzpat

No, I'm just wondering why Inhofe is to blame because he can't fly his Cessna? Seems a bit of a stretch to me.

He's to blame because he's the one pushing for an exclusion to the new rules for supplemental ops.

The fact that he himself is an inept pilot doesn't help his case but it's just superfluous information in this instance.

02-13-2011 | 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by whitt767

I don't want ALPA taking dues out of profit sharing. Is that clear enough? Stay on topic. I know they can, but I don't like it.

You're the one who brought up the subject of who "negotiated" the non-contract employees profit sharing. Now you are avoiding a topic you brought up. I don't know how long you have been around Delta but it doesn't sound like its been that long if you don't know about the unwritten "me too" clause that has existed at Delta for decades.

I can agree with you on your first and last sentences.

Denny

02-13-2011 | 10:09 AM

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Bickering over ALPA dues on the profit sharing check seems petty to me.
I'm happy to get the extra money even if its a bit less after all deductions.

What really matters is what the dues money delivers in terms of

earnings
career progression
quality of life

Cheers
George