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02-04-2011 | 04:11 PM

#58901

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

You'll get paid 72:45. Training is pay, no credit. Reserve guarantee is reduced because of the days you're in training. If you work more than 63 hours, you'll get more than 72:45

Great. Thanks for the quick reply and info.

02-04-2011 | 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Sweet! We're already there......year one, that is.

02-04-2011 | 04:13 PM

#58903

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Originally Posted by scambo1

Yup all 16 of them. How many 70/76 seaters are out there?

Oh yeah, UCAL will have 74 777s and 26 747's and they are pretty serious about holding the line on RJs. That's alot of brass bands to meet the planes.

Geez, I might be old but my math says 8 777ER's plus 10 777LR's equals 18. I still agree with the gist of your post just not the math.

02-04-2011 | 04:23 PM

#58904

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Originally Posted by finis72

Geez, I might be old but my math says 8 777ER's plus 10 777LR's equals 18. I still agree with the gist of your post just not the math.

I fixed my post...but you might still be old.

02-04-2011 | 04:55 PM

#58905

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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL

Good analysis except you overlook that it is a roughly 1/3 reduction in Captain seats for that staffing, and all junior Capt seats. Those are going to DCI, and we have more long term F/O's. Good news if you are senior already and eligible for those new WB A's, sucks if you wanted to be a junior NB Captain. How much longer to a first time A position now?

Should take less time. There were more total captain credit hours flown in January 2011 than January 2010.

02-04-2011 | 05:03 PM

#58906

DAL 88 Driver

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Originally Posted by Denny Crane

Carl,

Basically he testified that he was losing sleep over wondering whether the company got enough concessions (essentially 50% of our contract worth comes to my mind) from the pilots in the agreed to bankruptcy contract.

Denny

And don't forget about when he compared us to janitors.

And this wasn't necessarily in his testimony... but don't forget about labeling our potential strike a "murder/suicide"... and then the whole turning the other employees against us thing. I could never have imagined that anyone could have such a complete lack of respect for what we do.

That was a very dark time and I'm glad it's behind us. The attitude towards us by the other employees was absolutely appalling. By far the worst thing I think I've ever seen in all of my career. I hope none of us ever see anything like that again. EVER.

02-04-2011 | 05:07 PM

#58907

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Originally Posted by NuGuy

The best job protection is NOT no-furlough clauses not worth the paper they're written on. The best furlough protection are aircraft OPERATED by the mainline and FLOWN by Delta pilots, no matter the size. EVERY seat is worthwile, NOT just the ones you feel "are worth it". Every seat is worth it.

Nu

So if the 60 CRJs and 26 Saabs were being flown by mainline there wouldn't be any furloughs when those 82 aircraft are parked in the next 18 months?

CMR had 113 RJs in '08 in the next 18 months they'll be down to something like 44. No furloughs?

I agree that every seat is worthwhile, but I suspect that the parking of so many aircraft would result in furloughs, whether they were flown by mainline or not.

02-04-2011 | 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Well, those rates would make being an 18-20 year FO much more palatable...

02-04-2011 | 05:13 PM

#58909

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude

You'll get paid 72:45. Training is pay, no credit. Reserve guarantee is reduced because of the days you're in training. If you work more than 63 hours, you'll get more than 72:45

Lets get the ability to have pay and credit, or pay only at the pilots discretion.