Amish Pilot

Thanks Maddog and Denny

chuck416

Hi Amish Pilot,
I'm kinda' in the same boat. Probably same as you, I know guys who've been DC-9/A for years, and went to the 774/B for:
>QOL
>more money
>less work/different lay-overs
I'm inclining more & more to make the same jump. Perhaps this year. The big variable is the time frame of closing the MEM -9 base, as is rumored lately. Interesting times!!! I view this as one of those 'choice between two good things' that life occasionally hands you. Good luck in your choices...

gloopy

I hope you are right. I know we are pushing for "less" charity to be given to them as a result of the two mergers since the original filing/rejection. But I would be shocked if SWA and maybe even JB didn't walk away with at least some very valueable LGA/DAC slots in what will obviously be a flat out bribe/appeasement. Of course I doubt [hope?] their days of being treated like Air Force One by every ATC facility are coming to an end. Oh that's right, "ATC knows they can get it dunn and no one else can" or whatever

forgot to bid

Um, time to post this on the Windfall thread gloopy, looks like it's about to fall off the front page of APCF as nobody has said anything since the day I said too much. Hate for a winner of a thread like that to disappear.

Denny Crane

A bit off topic but don't dial a phone number with an 809 area code. Just got this message from my daughter that included the following:

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US BY AT&T. DON'T EVER
DIAL AREA CODE 809

This one is being distributed all over the US ... This is pretty
scary, especially given the way they try to get you to call.

Be sure you read this and pass it on.

They get you to call by telling you that it is information about a
family member who has been ill or to tell you someone has been
arrested, died, or to let you know you have won a wonderful prize,
etc..
In each case, you are told to call the 809 number right away. Since
there are so many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return
these calls.

If you call from the U.S. or Canada , you will apparently be charged a
minimum of $2425 per-minute.

And you'll also get a long recorded message. The point is, they will
try to keep you on the phone as long as possible to increase the
charges.
WHY IT WORKS:

The 809 area code is located in the Dominican Republic .
The charges afterward can become a real nightmare. That's because you
did actually make the call. If you complain, both your local phone
company and your long distance carrier will not want to get involved
and will most likely tell you that they are simply providing the
billing for the foreign company. You'll end up dealing with a foreign
company that argues they have done nothing wrong.

Please forward this entire message to your friends, family and
colleagues to help them become aware of this scam.

AT&T VERIFIES IT'S TRUE :



AT&T | 809 Area Code and Other Long Distance Phone Scams

SNOPES VERIFIES IT'S TRUE

snopes.com: 809 Area Code Scam


Denny

gloopy

IMO Delta is still reeling from the self induced blunt force trauma pounding in giving up a significant gate area, dumping tons of money into the "TajMullin" only to underutilize it, while the carrier that you allowed to gain market share in the process of doing so has flat out dominated, taken the title as the city's biggest and even stole the Red Sox sponsorship out from under us. All while we flounder in a half empty terminal with low utilization that we share with a competitor (not to mention give Alaska some great routes that should be 100% ours).

IOW, we have a LOT of act to get together before a BOS pilot base of any kind is even a consideration. Don't hold your breath, as it appears we have ceeded that territory permantly and are too afraid to do what it takes to get it back. The shuttle may or may not be a "money maker" (to a large degree that is) but the shuttle as a whole is 2/3 RJ's anyway. The BOS-LGA shuttle isn't nearly enough to justify a BOS base. We won't have one until we get down and dirty and take that city back, and it doesn't look like we are willing and/or able to do that now. Kiss BOS goodbye.

forgot to bid

If the deal stays the way DAL/LLC counter proposed, the part with JB, Spirit, Westjet and AAI getting slots, then in a way both JB and SWA will be getting something. Nothing more should be given.

This should be on Delta and LLC's terms and if not they should sue and pants the DOJ/DOT's for all the world to see.

I just don't see Delta budging on any more. To do so would justify what SWA has done which is to make some sort of deal that had the government doing their bidding for them and demanding for free what everyone else earned over decades of effort.

SWA did the right thing buying AAI. If they're willing to pay then congratulations you get in to new markets... and years and years of financial and operational headaches.

But having the government run interference on some lousy argument that other airlines can't make deals that don't benefit them because that's anti-competitive, well, to that idea I say:

Amish Pilot

Hi Chuck,

I made the jump to the DC-9 when the freighters got parked. I told myself I would give it a year and see if it grows on me. Well, it didn't. I'm not really onto the 5 legs a day type of flying and I started having Gaoza withdraws. Anyway, just checking my options. That is the great part of working for a airline this size, tired of flying intl, did domestic, tired of flying domestic, bid intl. Good luck to you also.

forgot to bid

It's such a shame isn't it?

gloopy

I'd say at least 1/2, maybe significantly more, DCI. I remember something vaguely along those lines from last time. I read one article that implied that all 125 slots we are trying to get from USAir are currently "Express" slots.

Here is one old article:

Delta, US Airways announce massive DCA/LGA slot swap deal | ATW Online

One of the highlights:

"DL said it will more than double the number of destinations it serves from LGA, including 12 cities not currently served by US. It said it will operate "larger jets" from the slots it is taking over from US instead of the turboprops US/Piedmont operate currently."

But "larger jets" than a Dash-8 could absolutely mean 70-76 seat RJ's.

Not only that but there was major buzz at the time at CPZ/CMR about huge LGA growth should it be aprooved. Those two things lead me to believe that the "growth" will be mostly outsourced planes rather than Delta pilot jobs, although we may end up with some.