Way to go Pack!

At least you knew all of their names! Beats the Captains I was hanging with for the game

True enough. But as I've said, the most important part of this interview with Moak was his comments about ALPA national's highest priority with regard to collective bargaining. I won't re-post it because I'm sure you read it. Many of the ALPA stalwarts here have consistently said that we are to blame regarding Scope. The locals negotiate everything and national is only there to help facilitate with their expert staff the achieving of whatever the local's goals are. Moak's comments are a clear rebuke of that myth.

This is extremely important because it shows that we may have to fight national as hard as management. Depending upon what national thinks is for the greater good of our industry. This is the main reason I support going to an independent union. I want our union to be comprised of only Delta pilots...so we can spend our energies fighting one opponent - not two.

Carl

Define "unity" in acl's world. And please be specific.

Carl

I know that's management's view, but it's wrong. Delta moves pax and cargo. And we compete head to head with LUV. How you can say they are in a different industry is so blatantly foolish it's hard to believe.

Carl

Yeah she was horrible... did anybody else notice that she left out a whole line? Oh and the blackeyed peas (as expected) were wretched... The game was great, and the commercials were pretty good too Oh... and the beer was really really cold here on the beach...

I define it the same way Bar does. In fact Lee defines unity correctly too. It is about the profession as a whole. Isolationism may work for short term gains, but long term, it will hurt your pilot group, and the profession as a whole.

You talk about fighting one enemy versus two, but the simple fact is that all of the issues we have with small jet operators are dealt with internally within ALPA. There is a tangible benefit to that. Going independent will actually, over time, cause you fight multiple on multiple fronts, with a opposition that may not agree with each other but their goal is the same; your flying. Dealing with all of these issues within a National organization is the way to go. I prefer to do that versus fight these groups at the table with our company or in a court of law.

Reading the transcripts of all of the Executive Boards from the 1930's on, gives me the appreciation of these issues, and how they have plagued the profession since the inception. At all times the Board was cognizant that their actions could harm the profession as a whole. Making decisions that benefit the group were always the goal. This is ever present in all of these board meetings.

Congratulations Buzz and the Green Bay Packers!!!


Who in the world is this favre guy you were missing?

That Brett Favre guy did great!!






i thought the ads were a solid D. I guess ailen movies are 'in'? The halftime show... if it had been will.i.am and elmo I'd been there with a 2 year old, otherwise, glad I missed it. Fergie freaks me out.

I'm betting Aguilerra was high