Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-06-2011, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Super Bowl predictions....?
I'm thinking Green Bay by more than 17.
Just because I heard, but did not verify, the last 4 times the spread was this close it was a blowout and between GRB and PIT I've got to believe it'd be GRB to do that over the we'll just win it by 1 PIT. But frankly, I could care less. I don't have an NFL team anymore, I'm homeless.
Maybe I'll cheer for Denver because of Tebow. Tsquare?
I'm thinking Green Bay by more than 17.
Just because I heard, but did not verify, the last 4 times the spread was this close it was a blowout and between GRB and PIT I've got to believe it'd be GRB to do that over the we'll just win it by 1 PIT. But frankly, I could care less. I don't have an NFL team anymore, I'm homeless.
Maybe I'll cheer for Denver because of Tebow. Tsquare?
In other words GB by 10
I really don't care either though, but I'll share my guess just so I get bragging rights if I come closest
02-06-2011, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Carl, Ending alter ego is consistent with benefiting the "greater good." But, let us not get political speech writing confused with reality. For an example you need not look any further than the fact our largest and most capable permitted jets are being operated at ALPA busting Tran States' Compass division. Those were pilots represented by our MEC at the date of corporate closure. Those were our jobs. Those should be our jets and our pilots. Compass pilots should have a Delta seniority number. That is the reality. Now the politics ... .
There are plenty of ways ALPA could use its' President's Office for the mutual gain and benefit of ALL ALPA MEMBERS:
1. Require outsourced flying be performed by ALPA members:If we build a strong enough foundation in unity, there is no limit to what we could build on top of it.
There are plenty of ways ALPA could use its' President's Office for the mutual gain and benefit of ALL ALPA MEMBERS:
1. Require outsourced flying be performed by ALPA members:
A. Makes our union more relevantB. Makes our union more relevant (part II)C. Set minimums on labor (both in areas of qualifications and pay) for outsourced flying.
2. Teach ALPA membership the benefits of real unity & return to our core strengths:- Airlines like SkyWest & Republic have grown and received flying by virtue of simply being non ALPA. ALPA will never win an organizing drive on these properties as long as the pilots there perceive a real benefit to being non-ALPA in the form of rapid growth and seniority.
- In contrast, ALPA airlines with leading contracts have been destroyed, ie Comair.
- If threatened with the loss of flying (non renewal of contracts with non ALPA airlines) airlines like SkyWest would fall in line instantly. They would see the value in ALPA membership (if you have 'em by the short hairs, their hearts and minds will follow) More effective than Pizza Parties at growing our union.
- By controlling and coordinating bargaining at the National level, efforts could be made to end whipsaw of regional against regional and currently regional against mainline.
- Management has ONE Bargaining Agent for labor - ALPA has a monopoly on pilot labor
- Make ending outsourcing a long term strategic goal of our union.
- Return the Constitution and Bylaws to their pre 1990's versions of "alter ego" and "operational integration."
- Pursue mergers within airline brands as a way of ending alter ego replacement of labor while improving ALPA members careers. (non ALPA members are not our concern)
- Use ALPA National's resources to investigate and develop new ways to bridge labor across operating certificates and corporate ownership. For instance, as long as the jet flies with Delta code, it is flown by Delta pilot in good standing with ALPA.
I consider most of what Pineapple says worthless as it seems to always have more to do with spinning what ALPA "really meant to say" vs. solid facts that could further the interests of those flying for mainline as you have stated here.
02-06-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
No. No.
What you are asking is who are our peers? The answer is obvious, though people don't like to accept it. Our peers are similarly designed network carriers. Those include:
AMR, UCAL, and LCC. The rest are either niche players (ALA), have a completely different business model (LUV), or a completely different product (FDX, UPS). We can use those as a reference, but they are in a DIFFERENT industry.
What you are asking is who are our peers? The answer is obvious, though people don't like to accept it. Our peers are similarly designed network carriers. Those include:
AMR, UCAL, and LCC. The rest are either niche players (ALA), have a completely different business model (LUV), or a completely different product (FDX, UPS). We can use those as a reference, but they are in a DIFFERENT industry.
What if none of them can do as well as SWA? What if our "peers" are all still negotiating?
If our peers have been unable to secure PWAs, I would hope ALPA would do more than just use those niche carriers as a reference.
02-06-2011, 02:30 PM
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Well, I think it's clear Ms. Aguilera didn't lip sync to a recording. LMAO!!! 
02-06-2011, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Well, I think it's clear Ms. Aguilera didn't lip sync to a recording. LMAO!!!
02-06-2011, 04:17 PM
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Bonus goof-up points for the flyover at the end of the song - too bad nobody saw it, what with the roof closed at Cowboys Stadium and all! (From Yahoo !)
02-06-2011, 04:26 PM
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I'm gonna show my age. Slash rocks...black eyed peas don't...Fergie is hot
02-06-2011, 04:29 PM
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the best half time show ever......If you were wondering what I was watching.
02-06-2011, 04:44 PM
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What a great freakin game!
The chick who sang the national anthem...SUCKED!!
That is all.
Carl
The chick who sang the national anthem...SUCKED!!
That is all.
Carl
02-06-2011, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Only the biggest cynic would believe what many here seem to believe: that somehow it is in ALPA National's interest for flying to be transferred from higher wage paying (and dues paying) pilot groups to lower wage (and dues) paying pilot groups.
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
I simply try to counter that illogical argument every time it comes up.
Carl
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