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Doug Masters 03-02-2011 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 956615)
And my grandfather, my father, and I were all commissioned officers in the military....no union. My point is this, for every tax dollar an American pays to the federal, state or local government is one less dollar of discretionary income they have to purchase an airline ticket. Conversely, government employees, like military servicemen and women, "serve." Corporations, like ours, produce a commodity. If customers can't purchase a commodity, we perish.

The government hires servants, corporations hire employees. Never once in my 20 years in the military did I expect a union to represent me. I signed up to serve. Now, living in California, I have no interest in paying any more of my 10% of state income tax to fund any more incompetency or continue to add to an already bankrupt state.

The governor of Wisconsin, whether Republican or not, is right on. You can't write checks you can't cash. We, in the legacy airlines, have certainly bitten the bullet over the last 8 or nine years, while state government employees have seen a 28% increase in income (in CA, for example). This is not a left vs. right thing, this is a fiscally-responsible thing. God bless your parents and their service to Chicago and Illinois. Presently, I'm worried about my job at Delta, my children and their future. Color me a little bit uncertain, but I'm not hanging my future, or theirs, on our union or anything.

Nothing personal New. I just beg to differ.

Good post Buzz!

NWA320pilot 03-02-2011 03:38 AM

Not to knock sports or entertainment........ But does anybody else find it appalling that we are willing to pay millions to a guy for catching a ball or an actor making a 30 minute sitcom yet have a cow about how much teachers are paid?

scambo1 03-02-2011 03:41 AM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 956673)
Not to knock sports or entertainment........ But does anybody else find it appalling that we are willing to pay millions to a guy for catching a ball or an actor making a 30 minute sitcom yet have a cow about how much teachers are paid?


...Forest for the trees...

Phuz 03-02-2011 03:45 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 956646)
So, why is it that a teacher, who is a private citizen, who is a professional, just as we are private citizens and professionals, any less deserving of union representation than we are?

Because the teacher's "customers" have no choice.

tsquare 03-02-2011 03:53 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 956524)
I'll miss the DC9's. Worse yet, I've ridden up front on Mesaba & Compass many times & would gladly fly both of those airplanes at Mainline.

fixed your post. Oh, btw.. you haven't answered my question yet. In case you forgot, you stated that we are rapidly approaching the barbie jet limit.. I asked you to define "rapidly".

tsquare 03-02-2011 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 956530)
The overriding theme echoed by the protesters and speakers in Madison is the protection of worker’s rights in both the public and private sectors.
Jeff Skiles, the co-pilot who helped crash land the airliner in the Hudson in January of 2009, was one of the speakers. The crowd cheered when he said, “we didn’t abandon those passengers to save themselves; we all worked together to save everybody. That’s a lesson that people in this Capitol building need to learn.”
Skiles continued, “this budget bill will strip Wisconsin public workers of the protections and rights enjoyed by other Americans. This bill will regulate public workers to second-class status in America. Are we going to let that happen?”
In unison, the crowd chanted “No!”
Skiles concluded his speech by stating, “Let’s not forget how this budget crisis came about, and let’s not let this governor and this Republican legislature shift the blame for what’s wrong with America from corporate profiteers and instead demonize our teachers, our nurses and our public-sector employees.”



Shoulda confine his talk to the ditching. He's flat out wrong here.

tsquare 03-02-2011 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 956549)
Wow...........this sure is about Delta Air Lines.

Get another room:mad:

Are you new here?

formerdal 03-02-2011 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 956677)
fixed your post. Oh, btw.. you haven't answered my question yet. In case you forgot, you stated that we are rapidly approaching the barbie jet limit.. I asked you to define "rapidly".

After the Republic birds I believe the company had about 27 remaining slots to hit the 255 cap. After these 12 they will be down to approx. 15. The 255 cap is a hard limit on 70 or greater seats.

tsquare 03-02-2011 04:03 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 956615)
And my grandfather, my father, and I were all commissioned officers in the military....no union. My point is this, for every tax dollar an American pays to the federal, state or local government is one less dollar of discretionary income they have to purchase an airline ticket. Conversely, government employees, like military servicemen and women, "serve." Corporations, like ours, produce a commodity. If customers can't purchase a commodity, we perish.

The government hires servants, corporations hire employees. Never once in my 20 years in the military did I expect a union to represent me. I signed up to serve. Now, living in California, I have no interest in paying any more of my 10% of state income tax to fund any more incompetency or continue to add to an already bankrupt state.

The governor of Wisconsin, whether Republican or not, is right on. You can't write checks you can't cash. We, in the legacy airlines, have certainly bitten the bullet over the last 8 or nine years, while state government employees have seen a 28% increase in income (in CA, for example). This is not a left vs. right thing, this is a fiscally-responsible thing. God bless your parents and their service to Chicago and Illinois. Presently, I'm worried about my job at Delta, my children and their future. Color me a little bit uncertain, but I'm not hanging my future, or theirs, on our union or anything.

Nothing personal New. I just beg to differ.

As always, elaquently... ilokently... oh crap.. well said

tsquare 03-02-2011 04:15 AM

nevermind..........


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