No prob. I agree it must be brutal, especially if you commute! :eek:

BTW, I read the email again and it says it's been presented to the MEC Chairman & the Senior Vice President of Flight Operations.

Maybe she saw herself on the JumboTron and she's jumping up and down for attention. That could explain the Zeppelins.

It's justified by Whitlow not applying to International flying. The first 12 hours they can nail you with Domestic or International, the last 12 hours with only International. Bah-ru-tal.

You can't fly a domestic flight, but it's legal to be on short call at 0600, then get called at 2200 to fly a two pilot red-eye to a SAQ airport in the mountains of Central/South America. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yup. Its absolutely ridiculous, & needs to be changed.

Helped my mother by tickets to MCO the other day. SWA cheapest LOW fare cost more then DAL, AA, UsAir, & UAL. Twice as much as DAL & AA. We bought over 2 weeks in advance. Good to know they're the cheapest out there. :rolleyes:

THE lowfare airline...

I personally dont know if brutal is the right word. Since it is twice as much as domestic, unreasonable (in terms of being rested) comes to mind.

Here is what I think is reasonable:
In my category, there is a block of hours in which all the launches occur, S/Cs should cover that for commuters who couldnt make it. Then you have ramp dance issues in which the pilots on the trip can time out, S/Cs should cover that. Then you have the shortrange turnback issues, S/Cs should cover that. Once the flight is (lets say) 3 hours into the leg, I doubt that any diversion scenario is going to return to the point of departure, S/Cs shouldn't be covering that.

S/C periods start about 3 hours prior to our first sign in. Taking into account our 2 hour commute on the front end of S/C, I think that this is reasonable because we are covering the on-time departure.

So, in my category, IMO S/C could be 10 hours and that would cover 99% of all potential scenarios.

As a commuter, when I commute to S/C, I am okay with the company putting me on rest early so I can do back to back shortcalls. That way I have fewer commutes...this is far far preferable to me, (others may feel different) because what normally happens is my commuter flight lands back home and as I am driving home, I get the "you are on S/C tomorrow at 0800" call. This is where the word brutal comes in.

Commuting to reserve sucks, but in some categories, like mine, you cannot guarantee a line every month.

You should email Clark Howard and just maybe he'll put a sock in it.

With his excitement about SWA coming into ATL, he will do something with a sock. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be something that will shut him up. :D