Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-15-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Yeah, look at the daily coverage: W, P, P, (OE?), Y, P, W
Usually it's W, W, W, W, W, P, P, [RES PILOT], W, W, W, W, P, Y
As far as the big picture?
Usually it's W, W, W, W, W, P, P, [RES PILOT], W, W, W, W, P, Y
As far as the big picture?
03-15-2011, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Okay a mans got to know his limitations, but by just applying the definitions to the scope section, a violation has potentially occured. Single carrier cements that a violation has occured. RJs are killing us ... Dying aint much of a living. (name the C.E. movie)
03-15-2011, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
You need to take Continental off the Skyteam list
03-15-2011, 12:25 PM
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remember a few months ago how skywest's affiliate was claiming they had enough money to 'buy Delta', question, if they have enough money to buy say Alaska and made a new airline called Shuttle America, would that not be against our scope?
03-15-2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
It asks for a password when I try to go that way. Oh well. The 17th's not that far away.
03-15-2011, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
This is not directed at you, but at the thrust of this discussion. If you are upgrading to a new airplane and are having some problems, would you seek advice from a pilot or a lawyer? If you are seeking a complex answer to a complex legal problem would you seek advice from a pilot or a lawyer?
The big uproar of the settlement to the 76 seat grievance resulted from ALPA initially filing a grievance. If the lawyers thought we had a chance in hell to win this case it would be filed. Pilots are smart people and they know lots of stuff, but a man's got to know his limitations. (name the Clint Eastwood movie)
The big uproar of the settlement to the 76 seat grievance resulted from ALPA initially filing a grievance. If the lawyers thought we had a chance in hell to win this case it would be filed. Pilots are smart people and they know lots of stuff, but a man's got to know his limitations. (name the Clint Eastwood movie)
Yes, and we all know doctors and lawyers can be hazardous in airplanes, and your point is well taken, however lawyers are also notoriously cautious. We could easily be too timid, or not pursue something where it was the right thing to do because of a lawyers advice of the possibility that it might not go our way. The company and their lawyers are more aggressive and capitalize on our willingness to settle rather than risk any possibility of defeat.
Under that system all they have to keep doing is violating the contract and we'll meet them half way as long as they stop the violation and they in fact force de facto concessions out of us while we claim it as a win because we averted risk.
03-15-2011, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly4hire
Alpha,
Yes, and we all know doctors and lawyers can be hazardous in airplanes, and your point is well taken, however lawyers are also notoriously cautious. We could easily be too timid, or not pursue something where it was the right thing to do because of a lawyers advice of the possibility that it might not go our way. The company and their lawyers are more aggressive and capitalize on our willingness to settle rather than risk any possibility of defeat.
Under that system all they have to keep doing is violating the contract and we'll meet them half way as long as they stop the violation and they in fact force de facto concessions out of us while we claim it as a win because we averted risk.
Yes, and we all know doctors and lawyers can be hazardous in airplanes, and your point is well taken, however lawyers are also notoriously cautious. We could easily be too timid, or not pursue something where it was the right thing to do because of a lawyers advice of the possibility that it might not go our way. The company and their lawyers are more aggressive and capitalize on our willingness to settle rather than risk any possibility of defeat.
Under that system all they have to keep doing is violating the contract and we'll meet them half way as long as they stop the violation and they in fact force de facto concessions out of us while we claim it as a win because we averted risk.
03-15-2011, 01:07 PM
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Anyone hearing the rumors out of USAir that there is an announcement coming about them and Alaska?
Just had a friend over there call me. News to me.
Just had a friend over there call me. News to me.
03-15-2011, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Great hyperbole, reality is that even in the negotiators notes, the intent though clear to us, was rather ambiguous. Think what would have happened if we lost.
Or we could have stayed the course of ALPA spoonfeeding bland oatmeal to the placated pilot group while occasionally they had a little spill down their lip that they had to swipe the spoon at.
03-15-2011, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Great hyperbole, reality is that even in the negotiators notes, the intent though clear to us, was rather ambiguous. Think what would have happened if we lost.
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