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03-15-2011 | 07:13 AM

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scambo1

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

They are debating drilling is Alaska again, but the reality is that this would take a few years to get on-line.

North Dakota is where the oil is, 500 Billion barrels of light sweet crude is what they estimate. To put it in perspective, Saudi Arabia is sitting on 50 Billion barrels.

03-15-2011 | 07:19 AM

#61552

acl65pilot

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Originally Posted by scambo1

North Dakota is where the oil is, 500 Billion barrels of light sweet crude is what they estimate. To put it in perspective, Saudi Arabia is sitting on 50 Billion barrels.

I know, and my guess is will will sit on it until we have to use it. We are using others resources first, then ours.

03-15-2011 | 07:19 AM

#61553

Columbia

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Originally Posted by satchip

$250/euro per wouldn't last long. The world economies couldn't survive at that price. We saw the tipping point before at $140. All the monarchies in the Middle East are in jeopardy.

Maybe a cutoff of supply in that region would spur our government to allow domestic production...

Nah, not this bunch.

Agreed-much above $100 and demand significantly wanes reducing sustainable profits. Even the most radical group gets that. Open up anwr...

03-15-2011 | 07:23 AM

#61554

Check Essential

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Tsunami hits the airport at Sendai.

YouTube - ????????????Sendai Airport stabilised footage?

Watch it full screen.

03-15-2011 | 07:23 AM

#61555

DAL 88 Driver

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

I do agree, they do need be seen as a single carrier and given that status.

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Originally Posted by Check Essential

Hear! Hear!

Not so fast, Check. Politician speak warning: He only said they should be given that status. He didn't say anything about what, if anything, ALPA should do about it... i.e. with regards to our scope clause.

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03-15-2011 | 07:25 AM

#61556

bluejuice71

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From: MD88

Quote:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot

They are debating drilling is Alaska again, but the reality is that this would take a few years to get on-line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scambo1

North Dakota is where the oil is, 500 Billion barrels of light sweet crude is what they estimate. To put it in perspective, Saudi Arabia is sitting on 50 Billion barrels.

Problem is that it is shale oil & much harder to get out of the ground & therefore much more costly.

Last edited by johnso29; 03-15-2011 at 07:44 AM. Reason: Fixed quotes

03-15-2011 | 07:31 AM

#61557

acl65pilot

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

DAL88, You take away should be that an ALPA Apologist (your term) agrees with the statement.

Why would you think I would be able to tell you what our body of reps would think. That is up to them and only them, through our input. BTW, National has nothing to do with what we deem single carrier, it is DALPA alone. If a court of law deems it, yes, it will be fought, but the reality is that by that definition, it is in violation of the language in our PWA.

Contrary to what you think I have no idea what DALPA will do. I was stating that there is no conflict because they are not DALPA. Even if they were by pure definition there is no conflict. Nowhere in the ALPA/DALPA By-laws or policy manual would there be a conflict. Not even with the Ford-Cooksey settlement. Reality is that their flying is flown with our approval, and when that approval goes away, it is our doing. We just allow our flying to be performed off our list. It is not "their" flying.

03-15-2011 | 07:32 AM

#61558

acl65pilot

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Originally Posted by bluejuice71

Problem is that it is shale oil & much harder to get out of the ground & therefore much more costly.

Agreed. But there will come a time, when it is cost effective.

03-15-2011 | 07:39 AM

#61559

gloopy

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Originally Posted by satchip

Nah, we'll launch yet another multi trillion dollar nation/continent building war, borrowed from our borderline enemies and fickle allies alike, and go even deeper in crushing debt. And we still won't drill our own oil.

03-15-2011 | 07:40 AM

#61560

Dirty

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From: A330B

Enforce our scope

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Lets be honest here. There is absolutely no conflict with RJET, even with all of its separate certificates, and ALPA. All of the RJET pilots are Teamsters and there is no conflict fighting this one. No matter what you think of there being a boogieman at National or not, there is no conflict with this one. It came down to legal interpretation.
What has saved them in the past was the fact that pilots could not fly under one certificate on one day, and another one the next. Yes, they were under the same CBA, but they had to do indoc etc to pass to another operation.

I do agree, they do need be seen as a single carrier and given that status.

Then why aren't we fighting this? I yield to the fact that many I fly with don't have a clue that this is happening, but it looks like a black & white clear cut violation. What is ALPA saying? You would think that as ALPA regional carriers' (ie. Comair) flying is soaked up by Teamsters pilots even the regional ranks at national would have a dog in this fight.