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Old 03-24-2011, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3 View Post
Interesting comment at 5:00:

News Headlines
Interesting indeed.

Richard: "...we've taken on the tough issues such as fixed pension costs and the like..." Absolutely no mention of the fact that the employees took this hit and are still making the airline run like a champ.

Richard: "...I think we at Delta have the second lowest unit cost of any other airline in the world..." Absolutely no mention of the fact that the employees work for those wages and still make the airline run like a champ.

I don't blame Richard for wanting to be the world's largest airline with the second lowest unit costs. But it's shameful that we pilots have allowed our union to continue this behavior without even a hint of trying to raise us above bankruptcy wages.

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Old 03-24-2011, 06:13 AM
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Anybody have copies of the pay rates for our global compadres? Ie: KLM, AF, Luft, BA, Iberia, JAL........think it's time to take a gander......ifn' we be a global entity, then these should be our comparisons, possibly......
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:22 AM
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Anyone have anything more specific?






FedEx and its pilots secured labor peace, at least for another year or two, with union approval of contract amendments Wednesday.

The agreement will run one year or two, at the union’s option, and provide for 3 percent annual raises, 1 percent lump sum payments up to $2,600, new safety programs and expanded foreign duty assignments.

The pact, hammered out by FedEx management and the Air Line Pilots Association in less than six months, was approved by about 68 percent of pilots participating in the vote. The union, which represents 4,500 FedEx pilots, said more than 84 percent of members cast ballots.
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:30 AM
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......was approved by about 68 percent of pilots participating in the vote. The union, which represents 4,500 FedEx pilots, said more than 84 percent of members cast ballots.
That is only a 57% overall approval percentage......Management won that round for sure.
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TCU BABY! Nice flyby
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
The last I heard, fwiw, is that for the next 5 years the only new aircraft added to the fleet would be used MD90s and that came from a LCA talking about their most recent meeting. The same one where it was mentioned the 88 pays for itself in 5 days and the 737 in 25.
I read that the first delivery of the airbus with the new engine type (not talking about Delta here, but just in the industry in general) will be in 2016. So the only new aircraft in the next 5 years wouldn't include that if it were actually in the plans.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:00 AM
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TCU BABY! Nice flyby
Interesting comment after the video said the TCU team wasn't overly motivated prior to the game. However after seeing the flyover (more like a fly thru ), they were fired up.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:02 AM
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That is only a 57% overall approval percentage......Management won that round for sure.
Management is surely taking them for a ride with the contract and full pension they have at FDX.
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Old 03-24-2011, 07:13 AM
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Management is surely taking them for a ride with the contract and full pension they have at FDX.
A contract vote at 57% is still a "thin win" on the union's side, regardless of what the vote entails.

It's much, much closer to the 50.1% that management wants versus the 100% that the union should try to accomplish.

BTW, FDX wages rates are still 30% below what UA and DAL had A DECADE AGO.

I do applaud the attempt to get a deal that keeps things from stagnating, but at an eminently profitable company, there could have been a lot more easy little things cleaned up that weren't.

Apparently a majority think that it was enough. and they need to stand together and be ready for the re-opening of Sec. 6 with the need to address the new FT/DT that comes out soon. Who knows, maybe leadership feels they will have lots more leverage with FT/DT changes and really no leverage now, so they took what they could and will apply leverage with the now even higher numbers....IDK.
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The same one where it was mentioned the 88 pays for itself in 5 days and the 737 in 25.
Bah, that's nothing. Because the -9 has been paid off for so long, it actually makes money going backward in time, and puts cash in the till retroactively, and can make a loss a gain back to the Wright Bros.

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