Don't forget...these "industry respected experts" were also the ones that fought ALPA's own in-house union of staff members and tried to break their union. They lost that battle too and will have to pay at least $700,000 dollars in damages to the unionized employees they tried to break.

I'm sorry, THEY won't have to pay the $700,000...WE WILL! Because all the money THEY waste with their poor legal skills, is given to them by US.

Carl

 

Man...I just love it when I see people assembling this puzzle of ALPA's conflicted structure.

Carl

 

A 744 only has regular line pilots flying it. A 74C is commanded by none other than Carl Spackler. C = Carl

 

So moved & seconded by Bar.

Cohen, weiss and Simon's problem (like many well fed firms fattened by the gravy of a big client who's rich & always in trouble) is that C,W&S practices ALPA Politics more than they practice law. They listen to what the politicians want and try to make it happen rather than stating the unpopular truth. Chuck Giambusso decided "Delta pilots don't fly small jets" and their attorneys smiled and sent a bill, billed for an entire decade defending bad policy, then a settlement check and another bill. Bad legal advice is good business.

The truth was, is, and continues to be, that a union can not destroy unity and survive. It has been, is, and forever will be, true. Delta pilots must perform Delta flying or this union is toast.

 

So. The jets could slide on over to Compass, ASA, Comair, SKYW/EXJ or an as yet to be invented whipsaw provider, or split across the entire DCI "portfolio" rather quickly and effortlessly.

That is one of the reasons many (myself included) speculate that ALPA/DALPA is too scared to lift a finger unless forced to do so by the membership. They will argue that since the flying will continue to be outsourced even if we win, and that will present a cost to the company yet the same flying will still be outsourced, that we shouldn't bother because all we would be doing is costing the company money that could be used for our fat raises. I bet even ALPA's legendary EF'nA will say the same thing.

Yet filling the coffers of a cut throat ultra LCC competitor, especially one with God himself (or herself, if it gets us some underboob) on the board of directors, is why this issue is worth forcing.

 

Perhaps, instead of DPA ... dare I say, Teamsters?

At least they have this unity and unionization thing down cold. They fight to UNIFY their pilots while ALPA has fought to keep Delta pilots separate from 50% of Delta flying.

Just curious what others think. Not trying to get anything started.

 

I'm coming to the view that ALPA's goal is to have the most pilots represented by ALPA - no matter what pilot group wants. My guess is that ALPA (National) will not want to pursue any Scope argument against RAH. Why? Because ALPA wants to bring the RAH group into ALPA. Simple - the Delta pilot group is already in ALPA (and unlikely to leave) while RAH is not.

Follow the money - it's been the best advice anyone has given me in life.

 

ALPA was not chasing membership. Outsourcing our jobs only benefits Teamsters and non union airlines. Just look at the numbers. Based on past performance, they've grown nearly 1,000% in the last decade while ALPA's membership has been declining as airlines leave and ALPA members' work is outsourced.

ALPA's motivation was the same as our motivation at the Delta MEC. We give the orders. Remember we did not want ASA or Comair to be "our" flying. I understand we do not want to take responsibility for the result, but it is what it is.

 

Far more basic is this: DALPA/ALPA must defend the contract language they negotiated...or this union is toast.

Carl

 

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