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Old 04-15-2011 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
When I saw the smiling faces on the cover of the "Last flight of Midwest" issue, the magazine started going directly into the dumpster. I won't even bring it in the house.

FWIW, I've heard the RAH issue is generating a lot of blow back. Coupled with the FPL issue, as well as the fNWA grievance issue, the DPA is probably seeing a spike in interest.

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Agreed. I have gotten that impression also. There are "facts" to the Republic STS case that must be looked at. That position seems to be the concensus of many of the reps too. I am sure Tuesday's Special MEC meeting will have some fireworks. I suspect it will all be in "Closed" or "Executive" session though.

Haven't heard much about the FPL thing. Wassup with that?
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
Hey does anybody know what to do when your paycheck comes in short? Like only about 10% of normal?????? I used sick leave and also flew a white slip(my only one ever) and the pay should have been the sick value of the trip plus the white slip, but instead it looks like the sick was omitted entirely.....any how to would be appreciated.
I know you do not want to hear this, but first E-mail payroll. Their address is at the bottom of your pay stub. If you get no resolution from that, call them. Heck do both simultaneously and then is that does not work, call 1-800-USA-ALPA.
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Molon Labe
Hey does anybody know what to do when your paycheck comes in short? Like only about 10% of normal?????? I used sick leave and also flew a white slip(my only one ever) and the pay should have been the sick value of the trip plus the white slip, but instead it looks like the sick was omitted entirely.....any how to would be appreciated.
What does your time card say? That's the easiest to read. Look at your pay statement too. That might have some answers.
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
This is unbelievably frustrating for a new guy. Pretty much forced to join ALPA (you don't have to join but you still have to pay dues). But since then I have yet to see them stand up for us on anything. I have yet to see one piece of communication written strongly enough to reassure the membership that our best interests are in mind. I get a glossy publication every month (waste of dues money) full of pictures of bigwigs shaking hands. The only information contained therein is a list of things National is doing.

But if so much progress is being made, why haven't things gotten any better? During my admittedly short time here, it has felt a lot more like socialism than a representative democracy. "Delta pilots, ALPA will argue on your behalf when it's in the best interest of ALL ALPA pilots". Which I'm starting to think means never. Where do I get a DPA card?

No, really, where do I get one?
I get your frustration. I had it too coming to DAL and as a result got involved in a few committees. It allowed me to see both sides of the argument.

That said, unionism is a two way street, and you need to engage your reps on every issue. I do and am grateful for the dialogue. It provides perspective that line pilot generally do not have on many of the issues. Like it or not your reps have more facts, and many of them cannot be published in an e-mail or official publication.

On the publication front

The ALPA National Airline Magazine is from your National union and the local level has not say in that.

At the MEC level they publish the "Widget" every so often. That is our big publication. On top of that there are about 20 or so other forms of communication the MEC uses.

On the LEC level each LEC employs different mediums in which to communicate, and all of them vary in frequency depending on the LEC Council. These updates can be very in depth on all of the issues, provide strong criticism or support for a given issue etc. The way the Union is set up, this is where the majority of your communication on each issue should come from.

When something is decided or a piece of contract language is TAed the MEC provides that communication.

Furthermore, if you do not like what you see, blast em, tell them what they are doing wrong. Walking in the other direction does not solve the root of the issue. It took me being very engaged in each issue to get the level of understanding I wanted. Now, granted, I want more info than the guys I generally fly with. Because of that disparity, ALPA tries not to SPAM our group with multiple communications on the same issue.
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:12 AM
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What is the policy on deviating DH on the front end of a trip. I have a pattern with a DH has a 24 hour sit then operates 2 legs. Can I deviate DH on same day as operating the flights and stay home an extra day?

What are the rules?
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:27 AM
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What is the policy on deviating DH on the front end of a trip. I have a pattern with a DH has a 24 hour sit then operates 2 legs. Can I deviate DH on same day as operating the flights and stay home an extra day?

What are the rules?
If you're a lineholder, you just tell scheduling you're deviating. You're on your own getting there though - no positive space travel.

Reserves need permission from scheduling.
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
If you're a lineholder, you just tell scheduling you're deviating. You're on your own getting there though - no positive space travel.

Reserves need permission from scheduling.
Permission is almost always granted to reserves though in my experience. I have never been turned down.
Old 04-15-2011 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
If you're a lineholder, you just tell scheduling you're deviating. You're on your own getting there though - no positive space travel.
Thanks for the info.
Old 04-15-2011 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
88,

I agree the article is well written and I like what they say. The problem I have with it is not the article but ALPA actions. ALPA apparently takes actions contrary to what the article suggests.

Scoop
Absolutely. No question at all about that.
Old 04-15-2011 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
When I saw the smiling faces on the cover of the "Last flight of Midwest" issue, the magazine started going directly into the dumpster. I won't even bring it in the house.

FWIW, I've heard the RAH issue is generating a lot of blow back. Coupled with the FPL issue, as well as the fNWA grievance issue, the DPA is probably seeing a spike in interest.

Nu

Nu,

Yep there has been a spike in interest in DPA, hope that it continues. The DPA members that I met in the ATL crew lounge were very honest trustworthy Delta Pilots.

In contrast, it seems that some ALPA Reps that were placed in the same area, on admitted flight pay loss were less than professional.
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