Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? >

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Search
Notices

Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-22-2009, 06:31 AM
  #6521  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

Is it in DALs best interest to avoid any AE's as long as possible prior to SOC? Especially after this last expensive AE on the DAL-S side?

Just wondering.
forgot to bid is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 07:03 AM
  #6522  
veut gagner à la loterie
 
forgot to bid's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Default

I keep reading about post SOC how much movement and displacements etc there will be. Especially on the DAL-S ATL side.

Here is my question, how do we know? If I was a Florida commuter I'd probably like to stop commuting to DTW and prefer ATL, or maybe hold a good line on the ER in NYC, but if I have some seniority then I might not get MD'd when planes move around, so I might have to do a VD. Dare I move to a new jet and risk a 2 year seat lock into a category that turns out not to be that good? Would it be better to bid to your own airplane at a new base to prevent seat locks, but who knows where I'd sit if a bunch of non-commuters jump into it?

The key to commuting is QOL. The problem is if post SOC has as big as a shuffle as we expect, how in the world do you make a judgement on whats going to have a good QOL if todays % to hold a commutable line turn out not to be the same post SOC?

To me, if I were in the 40%-80% tier in a category on either the DAL-S or DAL-N side I'd be ****ed off trying to figure this out and nervous about making a wrong move that takes me from seeing all of Jonny's game to none of them or going from most weekends off to zero.

I think this is going to be a mess even for guys you'd think would be happy about it and the pure lack of information up to SOC will be a killer. Especially for you DAL-N guys who I think were given more info to make a better decision going into an AE then DAL-S ever gives out. I hope for everyones sake they're kind of enough to say this plane goes there and this many lines, that plane goes there and so on. Of course, that'd screw me because the more nervous people are to move the safer I am. But I think its more important to be fair.
forgot to bid is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 07:24 AM
  #6523  
Gets Weekends Off
 
tomgoodman's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Default Use caution

Originally Posted by Tomcat View Post
May take a couple of years for the dust to settle...
Yes, and the first "big bid" has been known to trap guys in a position they later regret when the next bid comes out. Be especially wary of moving and buying a new house. It's risky to be anywhere near the bottom of a category, even if you are "sure" the category will grow, because the fleet plan is only a plan.
tomgoodman is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 07:48 AM
  #6524  
Da Hudge
 
80ktsClamp's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Default

forgot to bid: never ever ever try to figure out the long term game plan, because there isn't one. They have an idea of a plan, but it will be reactive to things we nor they have any clue are going to happen.

Bid what you want, and want what you bid!
80ktsClamp is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 08:14 AM
  #6525  
Happy to be here
 
acl65pilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Default

Exactly. There is a plan, and as of last count it has changed at least six times in the last year.

I am going to big DFW 330B
acl65pilot is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 08:18 AM
  #6526  
Underboob King
 
Superpilot92's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Guppy Commander
Posts: 4,412
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
I am going to big DFW 330B
oh oh me too, me too!!! i want in!! (holding breath)
Superpilot92 is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 08:31 AM
  #6527  
Gets Weekends Off
 
buzzpat's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
Default

Originally Posted by reddog25 View Post
You weren't the acquiring company; DAL was! You are just a pilot. Just like me with 22 years at the old NWA. So explain to me why you are superior to me
Uhh, my superior intellect, rugged good looks, advanced curriculum vitae, hands of gold, inate flying ability and a package that would make a horse blush?
buzzpat is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 09:23 AM
  #6528  
Gets Weekends Off
 
capncrunch's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,324
Default

Originally Posted by buzzpat View Post
.....and a package that would make a horse blush?
You show your package to horses?
capncrunch is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 09:34 AM
  #6529  
Gets Weekends Off
 
newKnow's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Default

Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
ann bucking arbor is the biggest shathole on the planet! It needs to be wiped off the face of the planet along with that holier than thou shathole school!
ann arbor u of m
When did you graduate from Ohio State?

Don't worry. Even though U of M will keep its top 10 law school ranking, OU will beat them in football for years to come. (Or at least as long as they think a Big Ten school has to have a passing game to win.)
newKnow is offline  
Old 04-22-2009, 09:51 AM
  #6530  
No longer cares
 
tsquare's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: 767er Captain
Posts: 12,109
Default

Originally Posted by newKnow View Post
When did you graduate from Ohio State?

Don't worry. Even though U of M will keep its top 10 law school ranking, OU will beat them in football for years to come. (Or at least as long as they think a Big Ten school has to have a passing game to win.)
Big 10??? Don't you know what the three best conferences in all of football are? AFC... SEC... NFC....

GO VOLS!!
tsquare is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
On Autopilot
Regional
22594
11-05-2021 07:03 AM
AeroCrewSolut
Delta
153
08-14-2018 12:18 PM
Bill Lumberg
Major
71
06-13-2012 08:36 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
JiffyLube
Major
12
03-07-2008 04:27 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices