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Old 06-20-2011 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Not disagreeing, but I'm sure there are enough ex-B747-400 pilots who would want to work as DGS instructors. It's not just NWA and UAL that flew the -400 in the US. Atlas and Polar have been flying them for years, Kalitta Air has them, and there are I'm sure some retired pilots from foreign carriers such as Lufthansa, BA, KLM, Air France and all the Asian carriers. (Many of the Asian carries employed US pilots on contracts).

I doubt there will be a shortage of high qualified, retired pilots who'd love to teach as DGS instructors.


Yep, just takes time. Sorry, I forgot about the cargo carriers. I have been brainwashed by managements, "there's no money in freight" mantra.
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Now that the bids are closed, the most prevalent rumor is/was ATL330 to Africa and deep SA.

LOS is supposed to go back to 777 in Oct/Nov timeframe, but we will see how that pans out if they get a second bunk in the 330-200's.

Didn't hear anything about BOM but that is flown out of AMS so it could be done out of any base as it was in the past? Or are you asking about ATL-BOM?

I heard exactly what you heard, Africa 1st then deep SA. I was hoping they would round it out to include all the MEDs including India. I realize its not a one hop to India.

Truth is, I'm interested in flying India again. That should demographically make me the only 1 out of 12500 pilots.

Speaking of India, I had read that DAL was modifying the depressurization routes to cruise at a higher altitude than 10K'. Has that happened? That should really simplify flying to India. I flew thru Afghanistan and Iran in the daytime 2 things struck me: 1. there were no houses, boats or jetskis on the lakes and 2. Those are some BIIIGGG frikkin mountains.
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Seriously... I forget when do they typically post these results... is it days or weeks?
As soon as the high-tech Delta computation machines finish the analysis.




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Old 06-20-2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
Who do you want teaching you, some off the wall Air France guy who Knows squat about how we fly the airplane or a guy that knows how we fly it plus tons more previous knowledge from 20 some years of NWA flying it???
How about when we get those new aircraft? Should we be taught how to fly the Embraer or CRJ by Pinnacle instructors because they have years of knowledge on how to operate the airplane.

Originally Posted by JABDIP
That's probably why you guys train only domestic in ATL because the instructors have no idea of International operations???
Funny, I didn't know that the 777, 767, & 757 only did domestic.
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Meh.. much ado about nothing.
For some reason, Delta is committed to ensuring non-Delta pilots teach Delta pilots in the simulator. It's not much ado about nothing. It's absolutely inexplicable.

Don't know if this is the case at United, Continental or American, but it sure wasn't the case at Northwest.

Sad to think about how many more Delta pilot jobs this would create.

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Old 06-20-2011 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
That's probably why you guys train only domestic in ATL because the instructors have no idea of International operations???
Who are "you guys"?
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
For some reason, Delta is committed to ensuring non-Delta pilots teach Delta pilots in the simulator. It's not much ado about nothing. It's absolutely inexplicable.

Don't know if this is the case at United, Continental or American, but it sure wasn't the case at Northwest.

Sad to think about how many more Delta pilot jobs this would create.

Carl
Not inexplicable really.. it is a money thing, pure and simple. And it is not lost on me that it costs pilot jobs when DGS takes over the simulators, but... I have always had a problem with the fiefdoms that seemed to sprout up when we had seniority list instructors. It would be OK with me I guess if they had to be able to hold what they instructed on, and there were term limits..
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Why? jetBlue, US Airways, Air Canada, and Copa fly 190's at mainline.....

Any aircraft that seats over 76, and any 51-76 seat airframes over 255 are flown by pilots on the Delta Air Lines Master Seniority List.

It's the 255 not currently flown by Delta Pilots that provides the heartburn....
Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
I wouldn't mind flying one of those E190s. Something has to replace the dc-9s leaving, and I don't know anyone who would vote to give them to DCI.
I personally don't get a warm and fuzzy feeling when I hear the words RJ and "large, mixed purchase order" together in the same sentence when discussing the future of our fleet.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind flying these aircraft either, but I see the pressure to keep these RJs at our regional counterparts continuing.
Furthermore seeing as scope violations all but go unnoticed by ALPA, I don't see what would be stopping management from continuing to outsource our jobs.
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
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I think it is BS. I hope I am wrong and mainline gets these jets or others. We need more domestic fleet from my limited perspective.
It could be RA just pitting companies against each other, but those jets will bs flown by Mainline if they come to Delta. PERIOD.
Old 06-20-2011 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
For some reason, Delta is committed to ensuring non-Delta pilots teach Delta pilots in the simulator. It's not much ado about nothing. It's absolutely inexplicable.

Don't know if this is the case at United, Continental or American, but it sure wasn't the case at Northwest.

Sad to think about how many more Delta pilot jobs this would create.

Carl
Carl,

The DGS guys I have worked with have all been fNWA or fDAL line pilots and the training was very good. I too would prefer line pilot instructors because of the continuity between line and school house operations and more pilot jobs. Of course the other side of the coin is if we had line pilot instructors we might not need all those standards pilots showing us how they really do it on the line

And since we don't technically have any standard operating procedure why don't they call them technique pilots?
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