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DAL330drvr 06-20-2011 04:42 PM

Here's a good rumor....
 
Boeing Signs Orders and Commitments for 17 747-8 Intercontinentals

Boeing today during the Paris Air Show announced orders and commitments for 17 of its 747-8 Intercontinental airplanes. The orders, placed by two undisclosed customers, are valued at a combined $5.4 billion at list prices. One customer has committed to 15 of the new passenger version of the 747-8 while the other placed an order for two.
:D

Bill Lumberg 06-20-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 1011290)
Did you ask him how much money he lost in the lawsuit to take the junior NWA pilots DC fund? :cool:

There may be some like that, but there are also plenty of captains who are fed up with RJs, commute on them now, and think they get in the way with airspace and careers. They are not the majority. Every FO would vote no on any additional RJs, and maybe half of the captains. If that was the case, then additional RJs are a no go.

TANSTAAFL 06-20-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by chuck416 (Post 1011233)
What a moron! He takes a 40% pay-cut along with loss of pension and, indicates he'll settle the upcoming contract for 25% raise, AND does not mind a sellout of the junior guys in the process. In the end, he's still down well over 20% from where his wages were pre-bankruptcy, NOT including inflation OR loss of pension! Where DO guys like this come from? What ever happened to "leaving the profession BETTER than when you arrived??? Is it any wonder we're in the mess we're in?
Disgusted,
Chuck

Fortunately I think the MEC is way smarter than these guys regardless of what percentage voice this opinion, which I believe to be small. Selling out 100 seaters would destroy ALPA far quicker than DPA could ever hope to :eek:

forgot to bid 06-20-2011 04:44 PM

And they say this next generation is a worthless bunch of kids who feel entitled to everything they want. Meanwhile I watch my in-laws deal with members of the greatest generation who are so demanding and have no problem with pushing kids over a cliff for a social security check.

Truth is, it's not a generation thing that's the problem, it's a gene pool problem.

And too often we bury the best of the gene pool at Arlington and are stuck with pilots who thought it was their right to never save a dime and buy multiple homes, boats, planes and cars. And then unsurprisingly the pension disappears and so they're willing to throw everyone under a bus for a pay raise most feel is inadequate even if we tightened scope.... ?

The man is a douche bag and if I was a drinker I'd like to propose a toast to all of the senior guys here who bother and actually enjoy interacting hanging with those of us on the bottom. They don't pull up the ladder but instead stand up for everyone on the list especially where it matters most - employment.

Thanks, you guys rock.

TANSTAAFL 06-20-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1011308)
There may be some like that, but there are also plenty of captains who are fed up with RJs, commute on them now, and think they get in the way with airspace and careers. They are not the majority. Every FO would vote no on any additional RJs, and maybe half of the captains. If that was the case, then additional RJs are a no go.

I seriously doubt:

a) the MEC would ever even allow or direct that as a negotiating position, and,

b) would never approve as a TA to send out to MEMRAT.

johnso29 06-20-2011 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1011315)
I seriously doubt:

a) the MEC would ever even allow or direct that as a negotiating position, and,

b) would never approve as a TA to send out to MEMRAT.

I agree. It would never make it to MEMRAT.

slowplay 06-20-2011 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1011293)
That really burns me up too. In addition to being a financial moron, the guy obviously has little respect for this profession.

Did you have "respect for the profession" when you willingly worked at a failing carrier for substantially less compensation than the professionals?

Carl's giving some F9 guys a really hard time over doing exactly what you did...:p and what his pilot group did in 1993.

Sanctimony...that's funny.:D

Oh, in case you're wondering...I think Taansafl nailed it.

DeadHead 06-20-2011 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by DAL330drvr (Post 1011307)
Boeing Signs Orders and Commitments for 17 747-8 Intercontinentals

Boeing today during the Paris Air Show announced orders and commitments for 17 of its 747-8 Intercontinental airplanes. The orders, placed by two undisclosed customers, are valued at a combined $5.4 billion at list prices. One customer has committed to 15 of the new passenger version of the 747-8 while the other placed an order for two.
:D

Any reason why would keep an order like this secret?

Personally, I've could have seen the discounts, as a result of the 787 delays, compounded into a pretty good deal on some B777 or the next generation B747-8. DAL typically doesn't like being the launch carrier, but seeing as this is the next generation replacement aircraft to an aircraft type currently on property, there could be something to this.
Just not sure as to why they would want to keep it a secret, and as being a public company I figured it would only be a matter of time before it needed to reported.

Timbo 06-20-2011 05:23 PM

Hey, relax, it's only 8 1/2 more years until Delta gets the 787's.

Of course they won't be for growth, but simply replacements for the 767's, right?

I just hope we have not signed a new JV with Emirates by then...

sinca3 06-20-2011 05:42 PM

Scheduler's are morons!
Carry on....


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