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Phuz 06-14-2011 08:26 AM

Still subsidizing the concessionary competition I see?

acl65pilot 06-14-2011 08:42 AM

Anyone see that Hawaiian bid that closed on the 9th? 65 new hires. For a pilot group of 440 or so that is a ton of pilots.....

acl65pilot 06-14-2011 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1008073)
Careful though. It only lists AE preferences, not MD or VD.
It's handy information in some circumstances or for some seniority levels but it's really not very useful on any bid where there are a significant number of people senior to you who are being displaced.
Many (if not most) of the awarded positions on this bid will be from cascading displacements rather than straight AEs.

Talk I heard today is that they are "planning" for all of the MSP 330B's to just bid ATL. Um, might want to check their bids and realize most are going to bid 320A without a seat lock. :eek:

johnso29 06-14-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1008128)
Talk I heard today is that they are "planning" for all of the MSP 330B's to just bid ATL. Um, might want to check their bids and realize most are going to bid 320A without a seat lock. :eek:

Haha! Even these 'small' AE's jack everything up! Imagine the chaos if they decide to close MEM or CVG! :eek:

acl65pilot 06-14-2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1008130)
Haha! Even these 'small' AE's jack everything up! Imagine the chaos if they decide to close MEM or CVG! :eek:

If you think that closing the 330 in MSP is a small thing, just wait for the results. The second most senior paying jet, where more of the A's live in base. If they opt to stay and not retire, we are going to see some ugliness.

Oh and I would not be at a loss for words if CVG and or MEM were shut in the next few bids. :eek:

NuGuy 06-14-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1008128)
Talk I heard today is that they are "planning" for all of the MSP 330B's to just bid ATL. Um, might want to check their bids and realize most are going to bid 320A without a seat lock. :eek:

LOL...."knowing your pilot group" fail.

Most WB guys in MSP are the last remnant of the "old guard"...the guys that rolled in off the prarie when they were 18 and have been in MSP since. Guys and gals who are parked in Apple Valley, Edina, Minnetonka, or some other burb of MSP/STP (Peachtree City equivalent for you fDAL types). "The Cities" is the center of the known universe to them. They are going NOWHERE. They've downbid from the 747-200/DC-10 to the 330, and will now do the same by bumping into the 7ER or 320.

You probably have guys that still think that we can't jumpseat and have to send in a travel voucher 6 months ahead of time to get your non-rev tickets.

If I were on the ER or the 320 in MSP, I'd definately have a MD card in.

I rolled the dice on 330 in ATL. Got free crash pad there and a car to use, so, ***.

Nu

johnso29 06-14-2011 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1008132)
If you think that closing the 330 in MSP is a small thing, just wait for the results. The second most senior paying jet, where more of the A's live in base. If they opt to stay and not retire, we are going to see some ugliness.

Oh and I would not be at a loss for words if CVG and or MEM were shut in the next few bids. :eek:

That's kind of my point. It's supposed to be small, but the waterfall effect could be HUGE! ;)

Sometimes I wonder if they're trying to nudge guys to the other side of the fence.

acl65pilot 06-14-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1008134)
LOL...."knowing your pilot group" fail.

Most WB guys in MSP are the last remnant of the "old guard"...the guys that rolled in off the prarie when they were 18 and have been in MSP since. Guys and gals who are parked in Apple Valley, Edina, Minnetonka, or some other burb of MSP/STP (Peachtree City equivalent for you fDAL types). "The Cities" is the center of the known universe to them. They are going NOWHERE. They've downbid from the 747-200/DC-10 to the 330, and will now do the same by bumping into the 7ER or 320.

If I were on the ER or the 320 in MSP, I'd definately have a MD card in.

I rolled the dice on 330 in ATL. Got free crash pad there and a car to use, so, ***.

Nu

I have my MD in for the 330 in ATL as well. Not sure I want a two year seat lock, but I still have a few days to ponder this. :D

The 765 in NYC may go real junior FWIW.

Check Essential 06-14-2011 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1008130)
Haha! Even these 'small' AE's jack everything up! Imagine the chaos if they decide to close MEM or CVG! :eek:

They decided to close CVG a long time ago. They're just doing it slowly.

johnso29 06-14-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1008142)
They decided to close CVG a long time ago. They're just doing it slowly.

I agree. And IMO MEM is next. Part of the continuing base 'realignment'. Once the DC9's are gone, there is no point to keeping it open.


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