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That's kind of my point. It's supposed to be small, but the waterfall effect could be HUGE! ;)

Sometimes I wonder if they're trying to nudge guys to the other side of the fence.

The one thing for sure at least this won't be masked by other major changes. We will all learn a lot from this bid.

forgot to bid

06-14-2011 09:06 AM

I say MEM is safe and so is CVG. They'll be somewhat tiny though.

Remember, if we can whipsaw our employees and our contractors we sure as hell can whipsaw our airports and local governments. MEM and CVG have a purpose against ATL and DTW.

acl65pilot

06-14-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1008146)

You can have "Hubs" without "Bases" and the other way around :eek:

dragon

06-14-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1008146)

I disagree. What I see happening with MEM is this:

DC-9s are going away, so those folks will all get MD'd to other equipment. That leaves only the 320 in MEM. Right now we have about 46 or so departures a day from just LGA on the 320 (could be dated info so DYODD). NYC is screaming out for a 320 base for the shuttle (BOS for now, but the GSA contract should be up for recompete putting DCA in play for mainline). Anyway, the smallest base left for the 320's is MEM and they would just have to MD them and viola NYC 320 base.

So bottom line, sometime in the next year they'll close MEM as a pilot base and then finish off the folks in CVG.

I hope I'm wrong.

PilotFrog

06-14-2011 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1007767)

Trying to remove the competition? The 330's fly to Europe now, and there is no New York base for them. There no reason to think they wouldn't fly to Europe from the ATL once there is a base there. In fact, I would expect some of the better flying will occur there. SEA will handle Asia, and ATL will fight over Europe with DTW. Who do you think is closer to the fleet planner's ear?

Especially since you can't get from LGA to JFK easily. Just fly them from LGA to ATL then ATL to Europe. Doesn't seem smart to me, but I'm sure it looks good to the bean counters. I bet JFK shrivels up, especially of the swap finally goes through.

80ktsClamp

06-14-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1008154)

You're vastly underestimating the power of the O&D traffic in the NYC area. There is no way JFK will shrivel up.

Whidbey

06-14-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1008127)

Anyone see that Hawaiian bid that closed on the 9th? 65 new hires. For a pilot group of 440 or so that is a ton of pilots.....

How would that play into or effect any potential acquisition?

acl65pilot

06-14-2011 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Whidbey (Post 1008171)

How would that play into or effect any potential acquisition?

When I heard about it, that was the first though that crossed my mind.

gloopy

06-14-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Whidbey (Post 1008171)

How would that play into or effect any potential acquisition?

I guess their whole list just got a 15% relative seniority buff. Nice potential windfall simply for running a couple new hire classes.

Whidbey

06-14-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1008189)

I guess their whole list just got a 15% relative seniority buff. Nice potential windfall simply for running a couple new hire classes.

Ah! Makes sense.

I wonder what would be fenced out of a deal like this... For example if we acquired them would we be fenced out of HNL?

Thanks for the help TS!

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