You are correct sir...$1.2B. RA's strategy is to own New York, home of the greatest number & density of HVC's.

Delta Air Lines, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey and JFK International Air Terminal Unveil Plans for Enhancement and Expansion of Terminal 4 at JFK Airport - Aug 11, 2010

You mean like Boston??

/puke

Delta's future?
 

from the vp of latin america on the Deltanet about one of our most profitable regions at the moment:

“We view the region as one filled with opportunities in terms of alliances. We're codesharing with Gol in Brazil, where we are the second-largest carrier from the U.S., with 32 weekly flights from three gateways. In Mexico, we're strengthening our ties with Aeromexico and we're in a joint venture with Air France and KLM, where we have integrated our sales forces,” he said."

we lost fortaleza, recife, manaus. PVR went from daily to once a week. This seems to be the future of this company. Waiting for the managment apologists to explain to me how the alliances are saving our bacon (just like the RJ):mad:

Agreed. #1 priority in my contract survey will be hefty scope wrt JV's, codeshares, alliances, etc. The RJ may be staying at 76 seats, but the SCOPE issue is not over. Pay, Retirement, Work Rules . . . . Of course. But SCOPE is THE issue.

I have a creepy feeling that we're in the middle of a scope end-run right now and just don't know it yet. Kinda like when the first few RJs showed up. We need Air France/KLM JV language as a minimum for any relationship that Delta enters into. Something covering the balance of flying, periodic reviews of compliance, and pre-nup penalties if they fall out of compliance. Anything less is signing away more jobs. :mad:

I feel the same way you do when I read this memo.

Basically, we don't feel like we should pursue the flying ourselves or compete when we can just siphon revenue off another carrier, ala Alaska. On some level I get it, but where does it end?

The mega-networks are (apparently) the wave of the future. We need to be serious about protecting our stake in the game. I understand that PIT-CDG wouldn't exist without the JV. There are opportunities via these agreements that can be good for the company and the pilots.

We need to be thinking now about the language that's put in place, so when someone in the future decides they can do without the Delta pilots, we will hopefully be covered. This is not chicken little stuff - this is the next HUGE threat. We all need to be paying attention and fill out our surveys/give feedback to our reps accordingly.

Another item to consider - all the airbus categories in ATL are "new" categories. MD's don't get first crack at those, and guys with a seat lock can be awarded it as well. Adds yet another dimension to this "small" bid.

I wish it was even possible for my brain to wrap itself around the codeshares. The new scope end around is signing up every known and unknown international airline to the skyteam alliance. We just added another China carrier. Its great we are getting access to China. I'd like to see Delta jets doing the flying tho.

I personally find our union complicit in the process of codeshare and JV expansion - yet I dont find them having a strategic plan that sees around the (opportunistic) corners that management sees around.

I think Delta is in stagnation mode for several years. The truth is I still dont get it. We are a cheap pilot group that is very productive, why are we the shock absorber rather than the souped up engine in the whole thing?

The ones we need to worry about are the carriers that we enter into a JV with. The other 50 airlines in SkyTeam that are just codeshare partners are not as big of a threat as the JV partners. I'm waiting to see how long it takes to have Virgin Austrailia flying LAX-SYD.


How long will it take for Delta/AF/KLM to merge when the next U.S. administration removes foreign ownership rules? Before I retire I'll bet my checks will come from SkyTeam, not Delta. This place is already being set up for that if you watch what is going on with the SkyTeam alliance.

Skyteam Airlines by Delta Air Lines, or Air France, or KLM, Korean or China West-Southwest-Central Airlines who owns a fleet of 777s, or whoever else joins.

Paint all of the airplanes gray, $10 says our current paint scheme is the last Delta scheme we ever fly.

Aw man, I forgot about that.