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gloopy 06-25-2011 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 1013874)
Bar

I am not as worried as you for two reasons

First I do not believe this pilot group will allow the sale of 100 seat scope.Too many of us have been harmed by scope sales in the past. For the most part the captains I fly with agree with that.

Second, a lot of those orders are not firm orders. I think when the time comes a Delta comes to the table with firm orders the slots will open. Remember the boys in Seattle owe us. Also do not under estimate Anderson and his ability to put Airbus against Boeing.

I don't care who we order airplanes from, whether it is A, B, or C, it will be flown by mainline pilots.

Yeah I wonder if some of that Paris hype is meaningless "letters of intent" etc. Also, its very common for many "orders" to be leasing companies...the same leasing companies that would have done the lease back to airlines minutes after they took delivery of "their" planes and then signed them away only to lease them back the same day.

I think we will be able to get airframes. As for training, once the move to ATL is complete, that facility should have more than enough to accommodate everything currently held in NATCO sans the 9, and if more space is needed I'm sure we can kick out some of the dinosaur stuff that lives there.

As for Republic and their ilk, the likelihood of them being a long term stand alone player is extremely remote, as is the chances of not just a 100 seat scope sale, but a 100-130 seat scope sale. Not going to happen. They will offload their orders and existing next gen narrow bodies (if they even take any) with maybe a nominal price premium, or we might get them for cheap when they restructure.

Even with fuel where it is, we are hammering away at our debt which will bode very well for when we buy/lease our next fleets.

Bill Lumberg 06-25-2011 04:57 PM

Anyone know the latest early out numbers? I know it's coming up here on the 30th, and they have some time to take it out afterwards.

Carl Spackler 06-25-2011 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1013944)
Anyone know the latest early out numbers? I know it's coming up here on the 30th, and they have some time to take it out afterwards.



Carl

Lifeisgood 06-25-2011 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1013867)
..Basically every manufacturer is now sold out through 2018 - 2019..

If you approach Airbus or Boeing and ask for 300 airplanes in the next 3-7 years don't you think they'll find a way to spool up extra production?
Say recalling laid off workers, working 3 shifts, outsourcing more, etc?

Please forgive my ignorance, I am genuinely uninformed ... is it really that impossible?

Thx

scambo1 06-25-2011 05:54 PM

how do I change positve space reservations to and from training? I went to travelnet, but it doesnt have an active prompt to change it.

Thanks in advance.

georgetg 06-25-2011 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1013963)
how do I change positve space reservations to and from training? I went to travelnet, but it doesnt have an active prompt to change it.

Thanks in advance.

Call the CPSC to cancel the existing reservations.
Make your own new company business reservations in Travelnet.
The flights must show availability and you can't book first/business...

Cheers
George

alfaromeo 06-25-2011 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Lifeisgood (Post 1013951)
If you approach Airbus or Boeing and ask for 300 airplanes in the next 3-7 years don't you think they'll find a way to spool up extra production?
Say recalling laid off workers, working 3 shifts, outsourcing more, etc?

Please forgive my ignorance, I am genuinely uninformed ... is it really that impossible?

Thx

Not impossible. Delta will get whatever jets it wants, period.

Red Five 06-25-2011 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1013641)
Search the web (NOT android market) for previous versions of firefox for android, then download it to your phone. It is either one or two versions ago that it actually worked, version 4.0b4 Then make sure you don't do the updates because the newer firefox for android won't show icrew.

Forgive me for my ignorance... I've downloaded and unzipped the file to my computer, but how do I get it to install on my phone?

RCD73 06-25-2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1013941)
Ferd;

Athough I am not a swabo, the best music video ever made is the original, not the remake of this:

YouTube - ‪Van Halen - Dreams (Blue Angels Version)‬‏


The spray on flight suits and the turtle necks are a little creepy. Followed up with synchronised hand shaking .....

The flying is great. I'd leave the rest out unless you want to freak out anybody born after 1975 :eek:

forgot to bid 06-25-2011 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by caddis (Post 1013874)
Bar

I am not as worried as you for two reasons

First I do not believe this pilot group will allow the sale of 100 seat scope.Too many of us have been harmed by scope sales in the past. For the most part the captains I fly with agree with that.

Second, a lot of those orders are not firm orders. I think when the time comes a Delta comes to the table with firm orders the slots will open. Remember the boys in Seattle owe us. Also do not under estimate Anderson and his ability to put Airbus against Boeing.

I don't care who we order airplanes from, whether it is A, B, or C, it will be flown by mainline pilots.

That brings up a good question, are order slots the same as list prices as in neither is accurate?

Except I think in the corporate world they are accurate such that people desperate for a G550 had to buy a used jet for a premium over the new prices or wait years. They should've waited years cuz in 08 and 09 the prices went from $60M to $30m range.


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