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TenYearsGone 07-02-2011 07:38 AM

Forgive me if this has been said before:

I have heard that the company is going to look or is looking at gateway-home basing.

I dont know the validity to this but I have heard it a few times around Atl.

TEN

acl65pilot 07-02-2011 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1016821)
My neighbor is selling her house because she took a position in another city with the same company. Part of her companies numerous relocation benefits are that they will cough up $30k if the house is sold at a loss.

This is the kind of stuff we need in the next contract. If they don't want commuters, make it easier to move.

Or the house is bought after a period of time at the loan amount or market value. Whichever is higher. In the interim most companies furnish airline tickets to and from the former home and corporate housing. They do this for voluntary moves in many cases as well. The numbers in our case make these options really expensive. On top of it, the company really prefers pilots commute and do not take the moving benefit.

Ferd149 07-02-2011 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1016867)
On top of it, the company really prefers pilots commute and do not take the moving benefit.

Bingo! What I said too.

I was discussing an instance when I called in honest but was charged with the ticket tax on the pass with a CP. When he mentioned that I could also move to base (MSP) I reminded him that we save the company millions per year in moving costs AND they could move flying around at will so we added flexibility. He didn't argue the point, or at least let it go:D

All right, I'm out.......gotta take Joe Momma to breakfast

Ferd

johnso29 07-02-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1016858)
I don't believe 90% of those were not by choice.

Well come back down to junior land and you'll get a taste of reality. Many junior guys were kicked around a lot between the APA & AE system, especially once DAL decided to park our 747-200's, then move 320's out of MSP, & start parking DC9's. If I told you before the AE results were published that a pilot in the bottom 99% of the seniority list would be displaced from DTW DC9 to NYC 7er would you have believed that?

Being junior at an airline that has 12,000+ pilots in a faltering economy with aircraft retirements and base realignments is a lot different then being junior at DAL 15-20 years ago.

Superpilot92 07-02-2011 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1016873)
Well come back down to junior land and you'll get a taste of reality. Many junior guys were kicked around a lot between the APA & AE system, especially once DAL decided to park our 747-200's, then move 320's out of MSP, & start parking DC9's. If I told you before the AE results were published that a pilot in the bottom 99% of the seniority list would be displaced from DTW DC9 to NYC 7er would you have believed that?

Being junior at an airline that has 12,000+ pilots in a faltering economy with aircraft retirements and base realignments is a lot different then being junior at DAL 15-20 years ago.

This ^^^^^

acl65pilot 07-02-2011 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1016864)
Forgive me if this has been said before:

I have heard that the company is going to look or is looking at gateway-home basing.

I dont know the validity to this but I have heard it a few times around Atl.

TEN

A great idea and a tablet type of device takes care of the biggest issue. Problem is that we are type specific and marketing changes equipment all of the time. I can see them doing this in places like MCO DFW IAD/DCA et c, where we have plenty of flight but not from all level one or two cities like World does. It would work better for the FA's who can fly anything.

acl65pilot 07-02-2011 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1016873)
Well come back down to junior land and you'll get a taste of reality. Many junior guys were kicked around a lot between the APA & AE system, especially once DAL decided to park our 747-200's, then move 320's out of MSP, & start parking DC9's. If I told you before the AE results were published that a pilot in the bottom 99% of the seniority list would be displaced from DTW DC9 to NYC 7er would you have believed that?

Being junior at an airline that has 12,000+ pilots in a faltering economy with aircraft retirements and base realignments is a lot different then being junior at DAL 15-20 years ago.

Yep, had a buddy of mine get MDed from DTW 320 to NYC 7ER B. He hopes he never goes to training.

johnso29 07-02-2011 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1016884)
Yep, had a buddy of mine get MDed from DTW 320 to NYC 7ER B. He hopes he never goes to training.

I was willing to take his 7er slot, until it was NYC. :D

acl65pilot 07-02-2011 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1016887)
I was willing to take his 7er slot, until it was NYC. :D

Sitting reserve on the ER 88 or 73N in NYC is something I would avoid at all costs. Three airports with flying going out at all hrs. Been there done that and it we not pleasant to get from LGA to EWR for a min time call out. Especially with not car.

I was floored at how junior the ER A seat went there. I am not sure I would even bid it to sit reserve on it. Those 0500 reports at LGA always seem to pop up :rolleyes:

johnso29 07-02-2011 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1016888)
Sitting reserve on the ER 88 or 73N in NYC is something I would avoid at all costs. Three airports with flying going out at all hrs. Been there done that and it we not pleasant to get from LGA to EWR for a min time call out. Especially with not car.

I was floored at how junior the ER A seat went there. I am not sure I would even bid it to sit reserve on it. Those 0500 reports at LGA always seem to pop up :rolleyes:

Yup. NYC is a big NO NO for me. :D


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