Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1016712)

Super and Johnso,

Thanks for the response on the "letter". It is very sad that this is what the management is resorting to with the policy.

Effectively, it is not the same policy that NWA wisely adopted, that apparently saved them a significant amount of money over the term of it.

It is a curious but predictable action.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1016513)

I was taking a walk today and thinking about this very thing. My time at NWA/DAL has been short thus far, but collectively as a occupation we have been pushed around long enough. So in support of the CAL/UAL pilots and in prep for our negotiations I'll say this.......


FUPM

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1016696)

When it was introduced, the tone of the letters introducing it was very demeaning. I was offended by it. The NWA policy was no questions asked, use it as many times as you want. Giving the policy to the flight attendants was a mistake. They are a less accountable group as a whole and easier to replace (a flight attendant is not airplane or seat specific like a pilot). Instead of just taking the policy away, the company is going to eliminate it informally through intimidation. We are running 95 percent load factors this weekend. Non-revs cannot get anywhere.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1016784)

So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.

And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1016784)

So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.

And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1016787)

No, I don't think that's many people's view. Bases close - people have family connections, sick or elderly parents, spouse's jobs, or houses they cannot sell except at a significant loss. I won't rattle off the bases that have closed over the years, but there are a lot of them.

Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 1016787)

People commute for many reasons. This policy was suppose to protect against accidental problems, but it's apparent that the company's view and the pilots views on "accidental" differ.

Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1016696)

The NWA policy was no questions asked, use it as many times as you want.

Originally Posted by LandGreen2 (Post 1016790)

Did the Captain of the DALPA cheer squad just say this ^^^^^^^^^^

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1016784)

So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.

And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1016797)

Do you live in the real world or PG fantasy land?

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1016797)

Some BS letter for a pilot using a policy is not going to get him to put his house on the market, it's just going to get him to call in sick when he cant commute.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1016797)

I bet you think attila works and that the APU sheriff program was a brilliant success.

Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1016784)

So, with 95% load factors of PAYING passengers, you want to be able to bump them off, and have DAL lose that revenue, just so you can live in Timbuktu. I get it.

And just because your Dad, and your grandfather, and your great grandfather, if they wanted a job, had to move to where the job was; you don't. Because you are a special breed, and think it perfectly reasonable that the job has to move to where you are. I get it.