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slowplay 07-09-2011 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1020120)
Growth is good, but what our pilots see is two cycles that are out of sync. Many fear we will be repeating POS 96 with limiting our expectations.

I don't get why your coffee klatch gets so worked up...inventing "scope sales" and limiting your own expectations. Don Quixote would be proud of these windmills.

How about we look at straight facts, have a debate, and then 12,500 guys will come to a conclusion? Please.

forgot to bid 07-09-2011 06:29 AM

Am I the only one who has to go look up the word "klatch"?

slowplay 07-09-2011 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1020127)
Am I the only one who has to go look up the word "klatch"?

Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?:)

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.;)

Pineapple Guy 07-09-2011 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1020105)
If we had a longevity only based pay system it would be a huge win. It would mean that all of our A's would be paid at the highest rate,

STOP. No it wouldn't. They would all be paid at the SAME rate -- Everyone can't be "above average". Meaning those currently at the highest rates subsidize those currently at the lowest rates as we transition. It also removes the "pay or QOL?" decision and turns it into just QOL. Great for the senior guys; but the end result is there will be no more junior categories as at present, meaning it will be many, many years before those clamoring the loudest for LBP will ever hold weekends or holidays off. As with all things - be careful what you wish for.

acl65pilot 07-09-2011 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1020131)
STOP. No it wouldn't. They would all be paid at the SAME rate -- Everyone can't be "above average". Meaning those currently at the highest rates subsidize those currently at the lowest rates as we transition. It also removes the "pay or QOL?" decision and turns it into just QOL. Great for the senior guys; but the end result is there will be no more junior categories as at present, meaning it will be many, many years before those clamoring the loudest for LBP will ever hold weekends or holidays off. As with all things - be careful what you wish for.

Like I said, I did not say I am for it, what I did say is more pilots would be at the highest pay. I have never been an big fan of this sort of pay, but I can see the points ppl make. One of them being that block time is in our favor on the JV.

acl65pilot 07-09-2011 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1020126)
I don't get why your coffee klatch gets so worked up...inventing "scope sales" and limiting your own expectations. Don Quixote would be proud of these windmills.

How about we look at straight facts, have a debate, and then 12,500 guys will come to a conclusion? Please.


Slow, there is not "my." As for scope sales, your are correct, the group will decide. It would be better for the Union to just take a position that scope is not for sale, but we both know that will not happen. With that statement absent from the leadership, pilots start to wonder. We also know that if a minor concession comes about, the group will be looking the shinny ball attached.

I will admit that I have been generally surprised by the level of mistrust people have in their bargaining agent.

alfaromeo 07-09-2011 07:29 AM

In C2K we tightened scope and increased pay. In the JCBA we tightened scope and increased pay. I don't know why everyone thinks it's one or the other, you can do both.

FedElta 07-09-2011 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1020129)
Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?:)

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.;)

Hey Slow,

I'm relatively sure the AU boys know (now) how to engage a spell checker. :cool:......JK.

BTW, thanks for the civil response to our last broadside. First round's on me.

Regards,
BG

NuGuy 07-09-2011 07:54 AM

So, anyone going to the special MEC meeting?

Nu

forgot to bid 07-09-2011 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1020129)
Are you going to add a "APC Word of the Day" to your "Babe of the Day" and "sarcastic picture of the day" posting collection?

Glad I could expand the Auburn education. Nowledge is good.


klatch or klatsch (klăch, kläch)
noun A casual social gathering, usually for conversation.
Origin: German Klatsch, from klatschen, to gossip, make a sharp noise, of imitative origin.
German eh?

We don't have a foreign word of the day category slow. I remember us winning a war so that we don't have to speak GERMAN!

http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb...4-34D8793B.jpg


BTW, at Auburn, we only have to count to #1. Because, well, that's who we are, #1.

And it just so happens you only need 1 point to beat BAMA!

YEAH TOUCHDOWN LUTZENKIRCHEN!

http://www.dlcache.indiatimes.com/im...KjfhE/x350.jpg

OH, oh yeah, I guess we do like speaking German at Auburn.

Well, anyways... WAR CAM EAGLE!

http://www.tailgatelot.com/storage/p...=1278967422838

Where is Satch?


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