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Old 07-18-2011, 07:51 AM
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Stock is in the toilet today! Almost 6% down, $7.94.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Reroute View Post
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Isn't Alaska code share limited to a prorate agreement?

Under a prorate agreement, isn't it true that Delta doesn't get any money from a passengers ticket for flight segments flown by Alaska with a DL passenger? Delta only makes money for the flight segment flown on the Delta aircraft.

Seems like a powerful incentive to do the flying yourself, unless of course their isn't enough passenger volume to support a mainline aircraft.

Is it true that the maximum number of DL coded pax on an Alaska flight segment is limited to a maximum of 86 Delta passengers or 50% of of the capacity whichever is lower and that the actual number is far less than that?

Would those thin routes go to a 50 seat RJ or mainline aircraft?

Also, doesn't this code share agreement cut both ways? Don't we fly Alaska passengers on our aircraft under a similar agreement, many of them to Asia?
All correct, if you assume that DAL actually would wants to do the flying, versus make a little less money, not invest in more metal, and have a larger virtual network.

The argument that you give is logical, but what comes before this argument is more important. What is DAL's strategic vision?; One where they continue to grow organically and acquire the competition, or one where there is a gigantic transnational virtual network, where most of the flying is not performed on their branded metal, but coded metal.

Pilots and unions want their companies to do well, but we also want to see growth a job protection and expansion. What we are currently seeing is growth off of our list, that provides a better network for the DAL passenger, but a nonlinear return for the pilots. IMO, that is where all of the angst is over the Metal Neutral, as well as the code share and capacity agreements. Everyone understands your points, but we need to look at the assumptions on which they are made.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver View Post
Stock is in the toilet today! Almost 6% down, $7.94.
Debt Crisis, and probably a overall lack of confidence in the airline sector.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:12 AM
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ACL. Did you see my request a few pages back?
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver View Post
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Moderators, when I initially log into APC forums, top level, if L&G is the last posting and showing on the right side for "majors," and I click on it...it takes me to the page of L&G that I last visited, or essentially the last post that I read. Any chance to change the format so that I always have the option of coming back to where I left off? Please PM if this doesn't make any sense.
Bumped it up for you.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:24 AM
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ACL. Did you see my request a few pages back?
Nope, First time I signed on in about five days. Repost it, or give me a post number.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:25 AM
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Beat ya!
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver View Post
Bumped it up for you.
As I understand V board, it goes off your last log in, not last read. I will report your post to the Mod forum so that the owners and Admins can discuss it.

You can always subscribe to a thread, or Click on "New Posts" it the navigation bar on the top of this page.

Let me see what I can dig up. I know that what you are talking about. The only time you can go the the last read post and the L and G is when it is the Thread that shows up first in the majors section. With the UCAL Sub forum sometimes the L and G is still first but there is a more recent post in the UCAL Sub-forum.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:37 AM
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Thanks for looking into it.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch View Post
Side question:

I'm on reserve and had yesterday off. I called the VRU at 4:19pm yesterday and it said I had nothing to acknowledge. I got a call from scheduling this morning at 3:30am telling me I have a 6:30 report and that the trip was put on my schedule at 10:30 am yesterday. Does this sound right?

Am I obligated to check my schedule via the computer at 3pm or is the VRU phone call enough? The scheduler said that they have no way of knowing when I called in and that they can only know if and when I check the computer.
I had the same thing about 3 weeks ago!!! PLEASE PLEASE call you REPS AND your Chief Pilot. This is total BS and needs to be nipped in the butt real quick. Obviously my complaint didn't do anything.
There are a bunch of new scheduler and they have NO idea what they are doing, many coming from other departments in the company.
All the other responses to your question are spot on.
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