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Old 08-26-2011 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I just heard on CNN that there will be high tide when Irene hits NYC. The reporter said they are expecting major damage to LGA and JFK. Really?
Just remember. This is the same media that stated the East Coast was 'ROCKED' by a 5.8 earthquake. I mean all that carnage(no damage or deaths) was so tragic. Our countries media is pathetic.
Old 08-26-2011 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Great point. And for someone to state with certainty that an aircraft delivered in 2018 will be capacity neutral...well I want their crystal ball! We can't even accurately forecast demand or total production costs (jet fuel prices) 7 months out, much less 7 years out.
Exactly! These planes will give us capacity flexibility.
Old 08-26-2011 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL
So any intel on where these acft are going to base? There is already hints via FO updates of a 737 base in DTW, and MSP and DTW have lost the most NB flying with DC9's going away.

DTW 737 all infers CVG 737 closure, and whats the plan for MEM?

Of course who knows about JFK/LGA with the slot swap, although we don't know if thats going to be any mainline flying at all
My guess is a DTW 737 base very soon, a NYC 320 base(flying from MSP) & the MEM pilot base will close with that flying going to ATL. Just my guess.
Old 08-26-2011 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I just heard on CNN that there will be high tide when Irene hits NYC. The reporter said they are expecting major damage to LGA and JFK. Really?
Trying to think -- isn't the whole customs and immigration area below ground level at JFK? If all that fills up with water, yikes!
Underground fueling systems? Baggage areas? Electrical conduits? Other utilities?

It wouldn't take a ten foot wall of water to shut us down. A couple inches might do it.

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Old 08-26-2011 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Just remember. This is the same media that stated the East Coast was 'ROCKED' by a 5.8 earthquake. I mean all that carnage(no damage or deaths) was so tragic. Our countries media is pathetic.
Yeah, maybe, but storm surge is nothing to scoff at. Couple that with high tide, and it is a big deal. This storm has real potential to be baaaaaaad. Sunny here on the Space Coast though.

Hey!!! where's my margarita?
Old 08-26-2011 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
My guess is a DTW 737 base very soon, a NYC 320 base(flying from MSP) & the MEM pilot base will close with that flying going to ATL. Just my guess.
You forgot to mention where the DTW 737 flying will be taken from...
Old 08-26-2011 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You forgot to mention where the DTW 737 flying will be taken from...
We are all feeling the pain tsquare. The last AE is sending me from 74% in category to 87% in category. Back to reserve........sigh.
Old 08-26-2011 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Trying to think -- isn't the whole customs and immigration area below ground level at JFK? If all that fills up with water, yikes!
Underground fueling systems? Baggage areas? Electrical conduits? Other utilities?

It wouldn't take a ten foot wall of water to shut us down. A couple inches might do it.
Originally Posted by tsquare
Yeah, maybe, but storm surge is nothing to scoff at. Couple that with high tide, and it is a big deal. This storm has real potential to be baaaaaaad. Sunny here on the Space Coast though.

Hey!!! where's my margarita?
That's true guys. The natural rotation of the hurricane plus the projected track have the water being pushed right at Manhattan, Long Island, LGA, EWR, JFK etc. It could get ugly.
Old 08-26-2011 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
We are all feeling the pain tsquare. The last AE is sending me from 74% in category to 87% in category. Back to reserve........sigh.
I was just pointing out that you bothered to annotate that the MSP flying would be going to NYC, and that the MEM flying would be going to ATL, but failed to mention where that DTW gain in flying would be taken from. Just find it a bit one sided.

And yes we ALL feel the squeeze.

Flatten the payscales.
Old 08-26-2011 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
You forgot to mention where the DTW 737 flying will be taken from...
You know the flippant and easy answer is probably CVG. But I'm not so sure right now, I could see the 737 flying coming out of ATL and NYC especially with the increase in the 320 in ATL and the move of MEM 320 flying to NYC.

I don't see them closing CVG - yet. IF they close MEM and CVG at the same time, that will create a bunch of training events that they aren't really prepared for as this past year has demonstrated. This is just my opinion of course, YMMV.
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