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Old 08-09-2011 | 07:32 PM
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Seattle to LA? Only 9 flights a day? Who would even want that route. That's practically an EAS route.
Old 08-09-2011 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
...For those who don't notice what's wrong:

Nice,
Now go on www.alaskaair.com and try the same exercise... All the non-Alaska flying gets sent to AAmerican/Eagle...Not one connection goes through SLC...

Alaska get 5% of their revenue from the Delta codeshare, in turn Delta gets 1%.

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Old 08-09-2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
Dont say that because I did and the response I got was, "oh so you're saying we should treat you as a special pilot" I then got off the phone.
I got a call and asked my CP if he thought it was OK to take a horn of NyQuil on an 9 hour layover so I could actually sleep, followed by a dose of Excedrin to wake me up from the NyQuil haze the next morning, then a few Tylenol Cold to get through a 14 hour duty day. He was actually cool about the call and I could tell he was doing what his boss was making him do and didn't really like making calls to guys who had called in sick.

The metric that triggered my "visit" was the last two calls I've had were within an 8 week time period and were both for 5 day trips so I've used up close to 60 hours already in two months. My recomendation was to do away with 5-day domestic trips. (I'm junior and I don't bid for them, I just get the really crappy ones that are left over). I guess if we call in OK after a few days we can then WS during original days that the trip operated and that will reduce the sick hours we used. I've just always stayed out for the whole trip when I call in.
Old 08-09-2011 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Alaska hiring news: Interviews to begin as soon as next month. Estimated hiring numbers upped from 200 to 370 through 2014. Next bid due out Friday, bigger then expected, with a chance for newhire position vacancies. A suggestion of 787's for Asia was enthusiastically received, but not in the tea leaves for the next several years.

^^^^^
Wow, the nation's fastest growing major airline is doing great! I'm glad we could help them out by filling in their thin routes with DAL pax. If the numbers above prove true, the Alaska guys hired this fall will be 20% up the list by 2014!

That's going to be painful if we merge and the SLI goes anywhere near relative.

Am I jealous? Oh maybe a little. And I know, DALPA, "we could always quit and go to work there." Let's tighten up the codeshares and scope in CY12! Just a friendly weekly reminder from your neighborhood FlyZ.
Do you think we have "codeshare" hiring at AK? Maybe if i quit now, I can catch on the hiring wave over there, and when we merge, I can finally be a lineholder in LAX or SEA before i turn 40!
Old 08-09-2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid


For those who don't notice what's wrong:

Cow? Milk? Maybe this explains is better? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVdud...feature=relmfu

Either case You, Us...Delta Pilots...DPA, DALPA...are losing flying and everything with it. Bla Bla about their feeding our international thourgh SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX... what ever...humor as necessary... Alaska is a good airline, but just buy them and staple!
Old 08-09-2011 | 09:04 PM
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Want the "Usapa" east v. the "Nic" west in a nut shell? Check out the rebel video.

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Old 08-09-2011 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GBU-24
Cow? Milk? Maybe this explains is better? ‪Drink My Breastmilk?‬‏ - YouTube

Either case You, Us...Delta Pilots...DPA, DALPA...are losing flying and everything with it. Bla Bla about their feeding our international thourgh SEA, PDX, SFO, LAX... what ever...humor as necessary... Alaska is a good airline, but just buy them and staple!
I think the way to look at it is Alaska does a better job than we do at what we do. Why else replace us? We're not as good.

In fact, for some reason when it comes to the domestic side of our operation we can't do our number one mission as cheap as the regional pilot or as good as the Alaska 737 pilot. We're not that good evidently, according to the powers that be.

So I propose a 12% pay cut in hourly wages in C2012.
Just pay us for duty hours and we'll create some regs for it but I'm thinking I'm willing to work a minimum average of 9 duty hours per day and average as much as 6 flight hours per day on average!
And look, I know we suck so bad the less we come to work the better, so reserve pilots, who suck the most, we'll come to work no more than 14 days a month. If you're desperate, we can if we chose come to work 16 days a month. But only if we agree to bring our general suckiness to work and only do so a limited number of times.

As far as scope? Look, you can keep everything you have with 3 stipulations:
1) they cannot fly in Delta colors whatsoever,
2) if a DCI contract is renewed pilots get a 1% pay increase for every 51 seater and above,
3) DCI carriers have to buy their own fuel.
I'll sleep on it and if I can think of anything else I'll give up I'll post it. My expectations have been managed, I've been beaten. After all it was 2 vs 1. 12% cut, swap to duty hour pay, we'll come to work less and suck less each month, some scope rules but they're not very big or noticeable.

Tell the board.

Thanks,
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Old 08-09-2011 | 09:27 PM
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Right now I make $94/hr x 70 hours a month x 12 months a year to come to work and evidently be such an overpaid embarrassment so as to necessitate giving our flying away to other airlines.

All I'm asking for is cut $94 - 12% x 9 hours a duty day x 14 duty days a month = ... a hell of a lot less than I've been making per hour and a 58% less than say a Joe Merchant at ASA makes per passenger seat mile if we flew equal flights.
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I thought there was something about Alaska or any code share not allowed to fly a certain percentage of flying between Hub cities. Do they get by this by SEA or LAX not being a hub city?
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog
I thought there was something about Alaska or any code share not allowed to fly a certain percentage of flying between Hub cities. Do they get by this by SEA or LAX not being a hub city?
The PWA defines SEA as not ever being a hub.
In contrast LAX was specifically defined as a hub.

Alaska code on more than 25% of flights to hubs.
With about 53 departures in LAX Alaska is permitted to carry the Delta code on right around 13 departures/day

DELTA, daily departures (2010 average)
LAX DOM 53, INTL 3.5
SLC DOM 81, INTL 2.7
SEA DOM 25, INTL 3


ALASKA, daily departures (2010 average)
LAX DOM 16, INTL 11
SEA DOM 118, INTL 2

Among the Alaska LAX international flying is the Delta Mexico flying that used to be covered by the 73N and is now covered by Alaska.
Alaska also is replacing 7ER flying to the Hawaiian islands from select cities.

Cheers
George

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