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Old 10-04-2011 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
5.6% of the company...Sheesh...I would have preferred DALPA restore our contract when we had that merger leverage...or at the very least establish a timetable with snapbacks tied to executive compensation!
Land, that is thinking creatively and using leverage effectively. These DALPA folks don't think that way.

This brought to you by the same folks who brought us the negotiated end of 3b6.

What was it that they got for that? Something extremely valuable right??

We need professionals in there, Giant conflicts of interest are in play now.
Old 10-04-2011 | 06:26 AM
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We interrupt this section 6 discussion with the following urgent message regarding the upcoming Red River Rivalry:



We now return to our regularly scheduled b!tching.
Old 10-04-2011 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
5.6% of the company...Sheesh...I would have preferred DALPA restore our contract when we had that merger leverage...or at the very least establish a timetable with snapbacks tied to executive compensation!
I'll ask again. Have we seen any successful snapbacks? It's a honest question.
Old 10-04-2011 | 06:46 AM
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we interrupt this section 6 discussion with the following urgent message regarding the upcoming red river rivalry:



we now return to our regularly scheduled b!tching.
Boomer Sooner!!!
Old 10-04-2011 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, knowing about things like mergers where we wind up with 5.6% of the company and over 20% increase in direct compensation, or Joint Ventures where we get unprecedented production balance protections compared to the results of those non-NDA signing union guys...

I can see where you think those things are nonsense.

Sheesh....
Oh so all of that was because of NDA's? And who exactly disclosed that to you?

The pilot group(s) had a certain amount of leverage to go along with the merger. That is what resulted in the zero% pay increase (COLA is not a raise).

Now perhaps it would have come in handy to tell our benevolent secret keepers about the holes in the RAH agreement or how the company intended to abuse the daylights out of the AK code share. Those things would have been useful to know.
Old 10-04-2011 | 07:06 AM
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-10 Man points for not knowing how to resize a picture.

Mods, can we make a new rule? No over sized pics?
Old 10-04-2011 | 07:08 AM
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-10 Man points for not knowing how to resize a picture.

Mods, can we make a new rule? No over sized pics?
Ok -10. Now how do I resize this thing?
Old 10-04-2011 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Oh so all of that was because of NDA's? And who exactly disclosed that to you?

The pilot group(s) had a certain amount of leverage to go along with the merger. That is what resulted in the zero% pay increase (COLA is not a raise).

Now perhaps it would have come in handy to tell our benevolent secret keepers about the holes in the RAH agreement or how the company intended to abuse the daylights out of the AK code share. Those things would have been useful to know.

Spot on. Winner. And please everyone, it is not a pay increase until we are back at the level = to C2K pay. I even have a neat pin ALPA sent me around '04 with "C2k restoration " written on it in gold on a green background. How quicly they forget and aim for less than mediocrity.

Don't see anyone on the LEC/MEC wearing it now.
Old 10-04-2011 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Curious, what % increase would you want to see it and how would you make say a 5% increase equal that percentage?

Public Math Warning.

We currently get 5:15 per duty period. You work 15 duty periods per month and end up with...let's see, carry the one...78:45 for the month.

A work rule change that increase that to 6:00 per duty period would net you 90 hours of pay for the month, for an increase of 14% or so.

The point being, it's not the pay rate that is all important. It's the amount we...me...your average pilot, will take home.

BTW, I'm in favor of BOTH a payrate increase AND work rule improvements.

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Old 10-04-2011 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Of course an ALPA apologist such as yourself would only post the most accurate of possible scenarios...right?

Carl
Well my DPA apologist friend...right back at you.

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