Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-06-2011, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
He was a Marine, but then transferred to the Navy. Regarding hats, he's definitely NOT one of those kind of guys.
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10-06-2011, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Come on Carl. There's no such thing as a former Marine. You should know that.
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10-06-2011, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
He could have answered cheese grits.
10-06-2011, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by orvil
I don't know the guy, but I have to ask is Krash a good name for a pilot?
He could have answered cheese grits.
He could have answered cheese grits.
10-06-2011, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
A Northwest guy is Chief Pilot in Atlanta?
So much for the Visine theory.
I heard they took him to Waffle House for his final test.
Welcome to Hotlanta Krash. Now, about this contract thing.......
So much for the Visine theory.
I heard they took him to Waffle House for his final test.
Welcome to Hotlanta Krash. Now, about this contract thing.......
Should the test also include how many Krystals he can eat? Buy 'em by the sack full!
10-06-2011, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
ACL- We all want restoration of our contract. The loan and sacrafice that we have given this company in their time of need has to be reconciled with. A pay raise on top of that would be nice. As a minimum, we have the nothing less than SWA crowd arguing with the DALPA acolytes, as they try to manage expectations down, over trip pay and w2's.
C12K is a an emotional and angst ridden topic. We have a contract comparison that is skewed towards airlines and data that doesn't reflect all of our competitors. It is missing data on KLM/AF, and that information will not materialize, if it does, until after the survey closes.
Basically, there is already an organized effort to manage expectations down.
Why one might ask?
C12K is a an emotional and angst ridden topic. We have a contract comparison that is skewed towards airlines and data that doesn't reflect all of our competitors. It is missing data on KLM/AF, and that information will not materialize, if it does, until after the survey closes.
Basically, there is already an organized effort to manage expectations down.
Why one might ask?
Originally Posted by TheManager
Perhaps some math and basic human behavior can answer the ? and might be a key to better aligning our goals and needs.
DALPA reps make 92 hours a mo. on the highest equipment they can hold in any base. Add to that a $1,000.00/mo. stipend.
Assuming there are reps that are on the 75/76A that can hold 777A on paper, here is the difference.
767a @ 182hr @ 70 hrs (for oct) grosses $12,740
777a @ 217hr @ 92 hrs (always) grosses $20,872 with the stipend. Disclaimer: these are basic gross figures and don't include any other income i.e. green slips.
DALPA reps make 92 hours a mo. on the highest equipment they can hold in any base. Add to that a $1,000.00/mo. stipend.
Assuming there are reps that are on the 75/76A that can hold 777A on paper, here is the difference.
767a @ 182hr @ 70 hrs (for oct) grosses $12,740
777a @ 217hr @ 92 hrs (always) grosses $20,872 with the stipend. Disclaimer: these are basic gross figures and don't include any other income i.e. green slips.
Originally Posted by TheManager
I think there are some among us that are already getting restoration pay. And, why would they risk upsetting the apple cart. Might they be motivated for a status quo agreement that is comfortable for the company and Wall Street?
Originally Posted by TheManager
Now, back to ACL's point. What if the disenfranchised pilots that are frustrated with the current tone and management of expectations became engaged and changed the compensation for DALPA volunteers to what they currently hold at the average line value for that category. Throw in the stipend and per diem and thats it.
I imagine that very quickly we all would be fighting for restoration.
I imagine that very quickly we all would be fighting for restoration.
Originally Posted by TheManager
I am short on the details of whether this would be a resolution change, policy manual change, or involve recalls, but if the pilots want it and support it, it could be organized and happen. A showing of grass roots unity to achieve true unity. We all need to be pulling the same oars in the same boat.
10-06-2011, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
STOP MANAGING EXPECTATIONS DOWN!!!!!!
Originally Posted by shiznit
SWA is NOT a comparision,
Then there's the whole issue of DALPA waiting until our survey closes before releasing data on AF/KLM and our other international competitors...but I hate to pile on.
Originally Posted by shiznit
I'm sick and tired of DPA types shortchanging the upside of the "acceptable range" by using SWA!!!.
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10-06-2011, 06:23 PM
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10-06-2011, 06:27 PM
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Second serious question of the day.
I read unical offered their pilots DAL + 1. If the SWA contract is not much better than ours, why don't we just ask for an exact copy of it.? Scope and all. Then adjust the rates up off the 737.
This should be easy, given what I have seen on the comparisons.
*disclaimer - I know how good the SWA contract really is
I read unical offered their pilots DAL + 1. If the SWA contract is not much better than ours, why don't we just ask for an exact copy of it.? Scope and all. Then adjust the rates up off the 737.
This should be easy, given what I have seen on the comparisons.
*disclaimer - I know how good the SWA contract really is
10-06-2011, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
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Uhhh, I eat grits. (NC boy). And love them. Even have my NorCal hippie chick wife and kids eating them.
I do, however, draw the line at Awful House.
Really happy to see Krash get the ATL gig. I'm loving this team coming together!
Uhhh, I eat grits. (NC boy). And love them. Even have my NorCal hippie chick wife and kids eating them.
I do, however, draw the line at Awful House.
Really happy to see Krash get the ATL gig. I'm loving this team coming together!
But regular grits over hash browns? No way. Maybe at some mom and pop diner but not at the Awful Waffle.
I like mine just chunked, but I can go for smothered covered chunked.
I mean do you realize your order envy as you sit there at the bar area in front of the gril and watch them make hash browns and cook them just a little too long so they're extra crunchy?
Originally Posted by Check Essential
FTB and Ferd nailed it. Its a down home version of an MMPI question.
Correct answer is hash browns, but that's not one of the choices.
Correct answer is hash browns, but that's not one of the choices.
SD: "Grits or hash browns?"
FTB: "Hash browns."
SD: "Really, you sure about that?"
FTB: "Yes."
SD: "Really sure?"
FTB: "Okay here is the deal. I can't decide between the waffle deal or the ham and cheese omelet deal. Nobody makes a soft massive waffle quite like the waffle house and with it comes bacon, hash browns, scrambled eggs and toast. But the ham and cheese omelet is so supper soft and fluffy and the cheese so gooey and it too comes with bacon, toast and hash browns.
It's a hard choice. In fact it's almost too hard of a choice and I don't appreciate the predicament. A real Southern man is going to do this, he is going to order the supper soft and fluffy Ham and Cheese Omelet meal, with hash browns chunked. And he's going to eat it. And he's going to be sweet to the waitress desperately trying to get a $2 tip from him. And he will give her the $2 tip. And tell that cook, "damn good job."
And then he is going to walk out of that waffle house and walk across the street and go to the other waffle house. He's going to already have change in his pocket for the USA Today and he will get one before he walks in. He will pony up to the bar and order the All Star Special, with... hash browns. They're that damn good. And eggs scrambled. He may splurge and go with the biscuit over toast though. So good that after reading the front page of the USA Today, the editorial page, some of the red section and indulging in the guilty pleasure that is the purple section, he will get up, tip $2, pay the bill, ask for change and walk over to the jukebox and select any one of these hits....
... and walk out.
But one thing this southern man will never ever do is order anything but the waffle or omelet special. Whether it is 6am, 10am, 1pm, 5pm, 3am. It will always be breakfast at the Awful Waffle.
SD: "You realize a pen... is a pen. Right?"
FTB: "$130K a year min reserve guarantee for a 6 year MD88 B, adjust the rest of the fleet accordingly."
SD: "We know who you are."
FTB: "....... $129.9K a year min reserve guarantee for a 6 year MD88 B, adjust the rest of the fleet accordingly."
SD: "I'm not the negotiator."
FTB: "And another thing, the HOWGOZIT sucks. As does the term clutter. And another thing, I'm sick and tired of the reporting points being over SPA. Mix it up."
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FTB: "Hash browns."
SD: "Really, you sure about that?"
FTB: "Yes."
SD: "Really sure?"
FTB: "Okay here is the deal. I can't decide between the waffle deal or the ham and cheese omelet deal. Nobody makes a soft massive waffle quite like the waffle house and with it comes bacon, hash browns, scrambled eggs and toast. But the ham and cheese omelet is so supper soft and fluffy and the cheese so gooey and it too comes with bacon, toast and hash browns.
It's a hard choice. In fact it's almost too hard of a choice and I don't appreciate the predicament. A real Southern man is going to do this, he is going to order the supper soft and fluffy Ham and Cheese Omelet meal, with hash browns chunked. And he's going to eat it. And he's going to be sweet to the waitress desperately trying to get a $2 tip from him. And he will give her the $2 tip. And tell that cook, "damn good job."
And then he is going to walk out of that waffle house and walk across the street and go to the other waffle house. He's going to already have change in his pocket for the USA Today and he will get one before he walks in. He will pony up to the bar and order the All Star Special, with... hash browns. They're that damn good. And eggs scrambled. He may splurge and go with the biscuit over toast though. So good that after reading the front page of the USA Today, the editorial page, some of the red section and indulging in the guilty pleasure that is the purple section, he will get up, tip $2, pay the bill, ask for change and walk over to the jukebox and select any one of these hits....
... and walk out.
But one thing this southern man will never ever do is order anything but the waffle or omelet special. Whether it is 6am, 10am, 1pm, 5pm, 3am. It will always be breakfast at the Awful Waffle.
SD: "You realize a pen... is a pen. Right?"
FTB: "$130K a year min reserve guarantee for a 6 year MD88 B, adjust the rest of the fleet accordingly."
SD: "We know who you are."
FTB: "....... $129.9K a year min reserve guarantee for a 6 year MD88 B, adjust the rest of the fleet accordingly."
SD: "I'm not the negotiator."
FTB: "And another thing, the HOWGOZIT sucks. As does the term clutter. And another thing, I'm sick and tired of the reporting points being over SPA. Mix it up."
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