acl65pilot

BS. They will not get 50% of the pilots much a less a vote before we are in the middle of exchanging proposals. ALPA will not get voted off unless it is a knee jerk reaction to a horrible contract. The irony is that the lack of unity that DPA is fanning the flames of will be equally if not more responsible for it.

I know that if I were in management, I would be licking my chops at all of the ways this group could be divided in to little fiefdoms and picked off.

DPA says it wants what is best for DAL pilots. I bet you that well over 85% of this group will tell you that what is best for them is a great contract. Pushing this drive though section six will result in less for everyone, and that is not what is best for this group.

acl65pilot

Oh, that's it. Gawd. No actually I would support them if I knew they would fix everything, but the reality is that even among this group of pilots there are widely differing opinions on what needs to happen. That is no where near sorted out and if they got it, it would be like a rebel force getting in to power and then now knowing what to do with it.


What Drew's article articulates is what is the issue that no one can seem to put there finger on. Well he just shot a really large flashlight at it. If you want to change that, and get what you want Carl, figure out what Reps agree with your position, and which ones don't, and then see if you have the support to pick a few off. The change of two or three reps, tops, changes this whole MEC completely.

Thus far it has not happened. Even guys I know within DPA admit they do not have enough support to recall anyone. That is why the system is set up this way. It allows an accumulator to the whole process.

As for electing a Master Chair and the ALPA Prez, I am all for that, but recall authority lies within the MEC and the BOD respectively. How about you right a resolution for you LEC 20 meeting, and then see if it can pass at the Nov MEC meeting. Make sure that your LEC 20 guys on the drafting committee that deal with this resolution, record the vote as part of the resolution.

To date no one has even tied this, including me. I am willing to keep putting resolutions up, but one man shows are stopped quickly, and with good reason. Get your guys organized and if you can't ask why? It is not because ALPA suck. It is because everyone is to darn lazy to give a little of their time and force a few issues.

We wonder why we are where we are.

Carl Spackler

That's not their appeal at all. The current admin is not cleanable or fixable. The appeal of the DPA is:

1. A union of only Delta pilots working to improve the jobs of Delta pilots.
2. Keeping every penny of our dues money as opposed to getting less than 30% back.
3. Negotiating our Scope language without having to meet with our regional competitors and the ALPA president first.
4. Not being associated with a national union that has attempted union busting.
5. Not being associated with a national union that stabbed fellow pilots (TWA) in the back.
6. Not being affiliated with an organization like AFL-CIO and their love of far left wing politics.

Just a few of the reasons.

Carl

tsquare

meh.. not really.

Carl Spackler

Love it!

Carl

acl65pilot

That is the problem. It has been leaking because too many pilots have been spending their time resting on the work of past generations, not because if cannot get fixed. It may take more work that it would have taken a few years ago, but that is the cost of going to the Lake versus doing your part. I can also guarantee you that fixing the "leak" is a hell of a lot cheaper than tearing down the house, getting new permits, inspections, a builder you can trust, and rebuilding it. No one ever appreciates the cost and headache of new construction until after they have lived it. It is also true that once the last nail is put in and you get a OC, there is invariably something that is not perfect and makes you desire to build a new house again. It is plain moronic.

DAL 88 Driver

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CVG767A

Isn't there a thread for this DPA garbage?

Carl Spackler

It's not applicable...because we're talking about ALPA garbage.

Carl

tsquare

I just finished taking a cursory look at their website, and I didn't really see anything that describes how their method works. I am mildly interested, but I'm not about to sign up for a program I know nothing about.