Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-02-2011 | 11:33 AM
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10-02-2011 | 11:34 AM
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The recall of a rep is trivially easy.
I know a dozen fence sitters to are holding tight to see if the DPA can really deliver on anything. If the DPA wants to show it can be effective, what better way than rick-rolling a LEC or two?
Pull a rep or two, and I guarantee that the others will see the writing on the wall.
Nu
I know a dozen fence sitters to are holding tight to see if the DPA can really deliver on anything. If the DPA wants to show it can be effective, what better way than rick-rolling a LEC or two?
Pull a rep or two, and I guarantee that the others will see the writing on the wall.
Nu
10-02-2011 | 11:34 AM
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a requirement of courts that before certain types of motions and/or petitions will be heard by the judge, the lawyers (and sometimes their clients) must "meet and confer" to try to resolve the matter or at least determine the points of conflict. This has the beneficial effect of resolving many matters, reducing the time for arguments, and making the lawyers and clients face up to the realities of their positions. On the other hand, it also can be a total waste of time for the parties and their attorneys. The meet and confer rule is particularly common (and useful) in domestic relations disputes over temporary support, custody, visitation and such issues which are freighted with emotion.
Lets look at the decision the TWA MEC made, and how the legal advice was crafted to meet that choice.
You had an airline on the verge of CH7 that was bought by AMR. Fact, and that reality came in to play. There are limits to everything. Is ALPA without fault? Not on your life. I too have issues with a lot of things, but the reality is that all of them can be fixed if people are willing. To date they are not. DPA will have issues, and one or two contracts down the road, people are going to want to give them the boot for the same reasons people are listing against ALPA today. DPA's response will be to get involved.
The root of all that is unjust and evil is apathy of the group.
You had an airline on the verge of CH7 that was bought by AMR. Fact, and that reality came in to play. There are limits to everything. Is ALPA without fault? Not on your life. I too have issues with a lot of things, but the reality is that all of them can be fixed if people are willing. To date they are not. DPA will have issues, and one or two contracts down the road, people are going to want to give them the boot for the same reasons people are listing against ALPA today. DPA's response will be to get involved.
The root of all that is unjust and evil is apathy of the group.
10-02-2011 | 11:34 AM
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You're just mad because we DPA guys aren't walking into your obvious time wasting trap.
Time wasting trap. LEC resolutions are ignored by the permanent MEC bureaucracy. Recalling reps is meaningless.
Yes. Ignoring the will of the pilots and their reps is hard work.
Carl
Time wasting trap. LEC resolutions are ignored by the permanent MEC bureaucracy. Recalling reps is meaningless.
Yes. Ignoring the will of the pilots and their reps is hard work.
Carl
10-02-2011 | 11:36 AM
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Once that strategy was pursued (long before Moak), ALPA began it's own journey toward an ineffective and conflicted organization. Not even ole Carl could change that. A new union is absolutely required.
Carl
10-02-2011 | 11:44 AM
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The recall of a rep is trivially easy.
I know a dozen fence sitters to are holding tight to see if the DPA can really deliver on anything. If the DPA wants to show it can be effective, what better way than rick-rolling a LEC or two?
Pull a rep or two, and I guarantee that the others will see the writing on the wall.
Nu
I know a dozen fence sitters to are holding tight to see if the DPA can really deliver on anything. If the DPA wants to show it can be effective, what better way than rick-rolling a LEC or two?
Pull a rep or two, and I guarantee that the others will see the writing on the wall.
Nu
10-02-2011 | 11:45 AM
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DPA says it wants what is best for DAL pilots. I bet you that well over 85% of this group will tell you that what is best for them is a great contract. Pushing this drive though section six will result in less for everyone, and that is not what is best for this group.
Carl
10-02-2011 | 11:47 AM
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I think the Steelers are gonna lose, but Polamalu is really really fun to watch
10-02-2011 | 11:58 AM
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Sad truth is that Ford-Cooksey is just one example of how ALPA is hopeless as an organization. In their attempt to represent all pilots, this lawsuit's aftermath puts obstacles in the way of any local union trying to do what they think is best for them regarding scope.
Once that strategy was pursued (long before Moak), ALPA began it's own journey toward an ineffective and conflicted organization. Not even ole Carl could change that. A new union is absolutely required.
Carl
Once that strategy was pursued (long before Moak), ALPA began it's own journey toward an ineffective and conflicted organization. Not even ole Carl could change that. A new union is absolutely required.
Carl
10-02-2011 | 11:59 AM
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