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Old 10-10-2011 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
For those of you who dont want to read formerdals Matrix-screen-of-a-post the executive summary is:

question 111 option C is choice 1.
Sorry for the long post, but there is some very good info and history in there.
Old 10-10-2011 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
Seems all over the map. Friend of mine didn't have a 24 hour break in 7 so he called and asked, but crew scheduling told him that for an international pilot, they didn't have to give him the 24 hour rest (dead in the water for domestic rotations though - Seems inefficient on their part but I guess its to the reserve guy's advantage). So, with the very few international destinations out of DTW, he was basically off the hook until they gave him rest.

Now, if they don't give me a 24 hour break in 7, I just wait until they figure it out and call me. I'm not going to bring it to their attention. Can't fly a domestic trip without it, so makes sitting long call at home a bit more "safe".
Originally Posted by scambo1
Shiz;

All of the above. So long as you have 24 off in 7 - they can call and you must acknowledge - wherever you may be... you dont necessarily get it at home. Reserve sux mooose schl...
Originally Posted by johnso29
My experience was that they generally picked a 24 hr period and tailored it based on your previous duty or a SC they are assigning you. Or if you finished a trip they may just make your rest 24 hours from your release time(to the minute). Never did they give me a calendar day of rest. Also, if you have 24 hours free from duty on a trip that will count too.
Thanks guys!

Too random to roll the dice with what I was going to try to pull off.... going to stick with flying a line!
Old 10-10-2011 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Tri-Color,

I am in my 12th year here and never heard anyone say the hat is a "symbol" of Delta management "holding us down."

I have heard many complain about it, and like I said, I don't mind it. I agree with you that it is part of the uniform, get over it guys and just wear it.

What I would like to know is why not require DCI guys to wear hats? Why the inconsistency? If hats are professional for Delta pilots, why not require connection pilots to wear hats?

Oh and you are 100% correct - outsourcing sucks!

Scoop
Yeah I haven't heard anyone say the hat is a symbol of holding us down either, I was just referencing a post someone made a few pages back (That I'm too lazy to look up) that talked about that. I just thought that went a little overboard. But yeah, I havent been here that long, but in my few years here, I also have not heard anyone look at the hat that way.

You bring up a very good point, if management is truly worried about our image to our customers, then why not make DCI pilots wear the hat too.
Unfortunately, the answer might be that they aren't that worried about the image, and more worried about picking the lowest bidder to do our flying
Old 10-10-2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
For those of you who dont want to read formerdals Matrix-screen-of-a-post the executive summary is:

question 111 option C is choice 1.
Yeah, that's just what I want...my survivors dependent on the financial health of Delta to pay their benefit...

I mean, what could go wrong? The pension was so overfunded that it didn't require any contributions since 1991 (until it was grossly underfunded). It was self-funding, just like the D&S!

Question: what happens to the funded status of the D&S Trust when all the current retirees die off and their survivors begin to draw the benefit?

I've seen how a Delta promise to pay works out, so I'd prefer to keep the $542K of insurance. My survivors don't pay tax on that money and it is completely independent of Delta. The pension termination and 1114 of the retiree medical benefits taught me to pass on Delta's promises that aren't funded in my name and portable.

So I'll pass on your option, thanks.
Old 10-10-2011 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
George, They are out of the variance on the production balance right now, and not in our favor. They have a window to return to that balance, and with next summers sked they will be.
well that's good news then.

That's a pretty good (pardon the pun) delta between the numbers and should offer a nice surprise on the next AE...

Cheers
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Old 10-10-2011 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, that's just what I want...my survivors dependent on the financial health of Delta to pay their benefit...

I mean, what could go wrong? The pension was so overfunded that it didn't require any contributions since 1991 (until it was grossly underfunded). It was self-funding, just like the D&S!

Question: what happens to the funded status of the D&S Trust when all the current retirees die off and their survivors begin to draw the benefit?

I've seen how a Delta promise to pay works out, so I'd prefer to keep the $542K of insurance. My survivors don't pay tax on that money and it is completely independent of Delta. The pension termination and 1114 of the retiree medical benefits taught me to pass on Delta's promises that aren't funded in my name and portable.

So I'll pass on your option, thanks.
Well it pains me to say it, but I gotta say I agree with Slow on this one. Might be a first. I think I just saw a flying pig... but then again I am in Arkansas at the moment.
Old 10-10-2011 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Well it pains me to say it, but I gotta say I agree with Slow on this one. Might be a first. I think I just saw a flying pig... but then again I am in Arkansas at the moment.


+1 for this post.
Old 10-10-2011 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
well that's good news then.

That's a pretty good (pardon the pun) delta between the numbers and should offer a nice surprise on the next AE...

Cheers
George
Not necessarily so. We did not cut WB seats on any great magnitude on the last few AE's. The company decided to keep the categories fat staffed, so even if there is a slight yoy increase in the flying you will not see a linear increase in the staffing.

Also, I am not sure that the time frame for compliance in the production balance is public, but as I understand it, the length that it is allows for a range, and then when it deviates outside of this range (a few bias points on either side of 50-50) the corrective window is large enough to take in to account normal seasonal adjustments.
Old 10-10-2011 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, that's just what I want...my survivors dependent on the financial health of Delta to pay their benefit...

I mean, what could go wrong? The pension was so overfunded that it didn't require any contributions since 1991 (until it was grossly underfunded). It was self-funding, just like the D&S!

Question: what happens to the funded status of the D&S Trust when all the current retirees die off and their survivors begin to draw the benefit?

I've seen how a Delta promise to pay works out, so I'd prefer to keep the $542K of insurance. My survivors don't pay tax on that money and it is completely independent of Delta. The pension termination and 1114 of the retiree medical benefits taught me to pass on Delta's promises that aren't funded in my name and portable.

So I'll pass on your option, thanks.
While I can see your point very well, what benefit is the insurance to a retiree after it goes to $50k? I would like that option a lot if the value of the insurance 10 years after retirement was more significant.

I have a problem with making changes to our benefits that affect retirees when they have no recourse and are dependent on the active pilot group to negotiate benefits. We will ALL be in that retired group at some point.
Old 10-10-2011 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
While I can see your point very well, what benefit is the insurance to a retiree after it goes to $50k? I would like that option a lot if the value of the insurance 10 years after retirement was more significant.

I have a problem with making changes to our benefits that affect retirees when they have no recourse and are dependent on the active pilot group to negotiate benefits. We will ALL be in that retired group at some point.
Speak for yourself, I for one don't plan to retire relying on a 401k and whatever normal people do. I plan on making a fortune when a movie trailer doesn't match the actual movie!

Most people's gripe about trailers these days is that they blow too much info about a film's plot. But not Sarah Deming. This Michigan resident is suing the distributor of the critically acclaimed Ryan Gosling thriller Drive – as well as the cinema where she saw it – claiming it was publicised as a Fast and Furious style action piece but turned out to be nothing of the sort.
In her suit, which was filed at the sixth judicial circuit court in Oakland, Michigan, Deming says the Nicolas Winding Refn film "bore very little similarity to a chase, or race action film ... having very little driving in the motion picture".
The plaintiff goes on to attack Drive for what she perceives as antisemitic leanings. The film "substantially contained extreme, gratuitous, dehumanising racism directed at members of the Jewish faith, and thereby promoted criminal violence against members of the Jewish faith", her suit reads.
Deming hopes to turn her appeal into a class action suit, which would allow cinemagoers across the US to sue on similar grounds if they found themselves watching films on the basis of a misleading trailer. Both the Emagine cinema in Novi, Michigan, and distributor FilmDistrict are expected to vigorously contest. Emagine has already pointed out that it would have been happy to refund the cost of the ticket bought by Ms Deming, which is the suit's only demand.
Drive, about a Hollywood stunt performer who moonlights as a getaway driver, has been warmly received by most critics. The winner of the best director award at Cannes currently holds a 93% "fresh" rating on the reviews website rottentomatoes.com.
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