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Old 10-27-2011 | 11:34 AM
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Scambo,

Back when we had this debate, I rode the market up 6% which I thought was a counter trend bounce, then sold to 85% cash.

You were right and I'm kinda sick.

I still think Eurozone sovereign debt is a bottomless pit.

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Old 10-27-2011 | 11:53 AM
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I'm planning to meet a buddy in AMS for a few days in mid November. So far the flight I'm targeting has some seats, but I may end up riding the jumpseat. How do you guys do this internationally?

Does the jumpseater occupy the crew rest seat until the first break starts and then heads up to the cockpit? Does the jumpseater just stay in the cockpit the entire time? Can I clear customs in AMS as crew if I'm listed as a jumpseater? Any other pitfalls I need to be aware of having never jumpseated internationally?

Also, and this is the most important part, how is the station in AMS as far as getting a jumpseat home to ATL should that become necessary? Are they likely to know what I'm talking about when I check in? Do you need a ticket to get through security, etc?

Thanks
Old 10-27-2011 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I'm planning to meet a buddy in AMS for a few days in mid November. So far the flight I'm targeting has some seats, but I may end up riding the jumpseat. How do you guys do this internationally?

Does the jumpseater occupy the crew rest seat until the first break starts and then heads up to the cockpit? Does the jumpseater just stay in the cockpit the entire time? Can I clear customs in AMS as crew if I'm listed as a jumpseater? Any other pitfalls I need to be aware of having never jumpseated internationally?

Also, and this is the most important part, how is the station in AMS as far as getting a jumpseat home to ATL should that become necessary? Are they likely to know what I'm talking about when I check in? Do you need a ticket to get through security, etc?

Thanks
Get there early, there is some tax that you pay.

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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:12 PM
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Do we still have 19 flights per day to AMS? business must be great if anyone would actually have to ride the jumpseat.
Old 10-27-2011 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Get there early, there is some tax that you pay, if its a 330/300 and the plane is full you will stay in the cockpit the entire time. 330/200 and plane is full with 2 complete crews you will not be able to get on (however cannot imagine why there would be 2 complete crews on board) I think you clear customs as a crew member...but its been awhile. AMS is more difficult to get the jump seat, e.g. you will not go on until all of the pax have been boarded. Like I said its been awhile.
Does anybody else think that this is something that might not best be discussed on a public forum?
Old 10-27-2011 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
Get there early, there is some tax that you pay, if its a 330/300 and the plane is full you will stay in the cockpit the entire time. 330/200 and plane is full with 2 complete crews you will not be able to get on (however cannot imagine why there would be 2 complete crews on board) I think you clear customs as a crew member...but its been awhile. AMS is more difficult to get the jump seat, e.g. you will not go on until all of the pax have been boarded. Like I said its been awhile.
Not exactly correct. All 330's have 3 jumpseats, 2 on the flight deck and 1 in the crew rest area that can be used for TO/LNDG. You will not be able to clear immigration/customs as a jumpseater. If you are an offline pilot, you will need a seat in the back so the above may not matter anyway.
Old 10-27-2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I'm planning to meet a buddy in AMS for a few days in mid November. So far the flight I'm targeting has some seats, but I may end up riding the jumpseat. How do you guys do this internationally?

Does the jumpseater occupy the crew rest seat until the first break starts and then heads up to the cockpit? Does the jumpseater just stay in the cockpit the entire time? Can I clear customs in AMS as crew if I'm listed as a jumpseater? Any other pitfalls I need to be aware of having never jumpseated internationally?

Also, and this is the most important part, how is the station in AMS as far as getting a jumpseat home to ATL should that become necessary? Are they likely to know what I'm talking about when I check in? Do you need a ticket to get through security, etc?

Thanks
AMS gate agents have no idea what they are doing. They told me once that there are no jumpseats on 767ER.
Old 10-27-2011 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
Not exactly correct. All 330's have 3 jumpseats, 2 on the flight deck and 1 in the crew rest area that can be used for TO/LNDG. You will not be able to clear immigration/customs as a jumpseater. If you are an offline pilot, you will need a seat in the back so the above may not matter anyway.
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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:28 PM
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Old 10-27-2011 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Scambo,

I didn't mean to "dis" what you're doing. I was just trying to contribute to the discussion. Investing is a topic of interest to me too. And I see nothing wrong with anything you've posted. It's your opinion and it might be really helpful to someone.

I think it's important to note that you and I are essentially talking about two different things... day trading and investing. You are talking about day trading. I am talking about investing for the long term. We both are using risk management techniques. Personally, I'm not big on day trading. I see comparing day trading with a more long term, consistent investment approach as being kind of a tortoise and the hare parallel. But I'm not knocking what you're doing. It's just not right for me... just like what I'm doing isn't right for you. It's up to each individual to find an investment/trading method that is a good fit for their objectives, time horizon, temperament, and tolerance for risk.

Thanks for the discussion. Whether you and I agree or not, I think it's a topic of interest to many here. I don't think any of us want to see the "Latest & Greatest" turn into an investment forum. But don't stop posting on this topic when you have something to say.

Are we cool now?

We are. I appreciate the civility, I did not expect it to be something I was supposed to duck and cover on.
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