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Old 11-14-2011 | 06:41 PM
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I don't think I'll be MD'd out of ATL and if I were to be then this AE will cost the company a fortune.

That said, as you fill out your just-in-case MD preferences you think to yourself - and people saying commuting is a choice?

I bet commuters save the company more money then they cost because if you were a regular employee at a regular company in MEM and it shutdown and moved to NYC you could say - see ya, and find another job locally. For an airline if you did that they'd have to hire another replacement pilot and pay for that training. But if you commute you save the company. Imagine if all of the DFW pilots had balked and quit in comparison to them choosing to commute. Compare that cost between replacement and no replacement. I mean if 100% of the guys commute from MEM to NYC to fly the 320 the cost to the company is what? Effectively zero?

Not to mention we're closing MEM 320 and opening NYC 320. Now imagine if you were flying a corporate A320 out of MEM making $90,000 and they told you the plane was moving to NYC and you've got to go there... for $90,000. You'd balk and probably quit because to keep your same standard of living you need a 80% raise to $160,000. And if you're not going to get that you'd be better off taking a pay cut for another job in MEM.
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That said you take the option to commute because it's there, I realize that and I wouldn't do it by choice. If I could only chose between commuting the rest of my career or moving, I'd move. Or look for another job.

But to say commuting is a choice, bah humbug.

In defense of commuters.

By a non-commuter.
Old 11-14-2011 | 06:56 PM
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I'm noticing a unfriendly vibe pointed in the general direction of the MD88 this evening...

Old 11-14-2011 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
But to say commuting is a choice, bah humbug.
Commuting is a choice?

Sure, like syphilis is a choice.

More like the negative consequence of a choice you made to trust another party with your QOL, and getting scrood over because they don't really care. Not to mention how upset the wife tends to get when she finds out.

So yes, commuting is kind of like a choice.
Old 11-14-2011 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm noticing a unfriendly vibe pointed in the general direction of the MD88 this evening...

It would be cool if those bears were standing in front of the fridge saying:

"Da da da da da, da da da da?"

"Da da da da, da da!"

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Old 11-14-2011 | 07:06 PM
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PBS question:

On December's wide report I'm assigned rotation 90xx B, same date/time two lines senior is assigned 90xx B(S).

Any guesses?
Old 11-14-2011 | 07:12 PM
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I went to Auburn with his son, actually, I soloed his son. I only time I met him was the day his son soloed and I remember thinking he was a really nice guy. The only person that ever tipped me for being a CFI.

If it says anything about senior, his son was a great guy and a natural pilot. I think his son went on to do something other than fly for a living, I'm not sure but I think that's the case and I believe we refer those folks as the smart ones, no?
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Old 11-14-2011 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm noticing a unfriendly vibe pointed in the general direction of the MD88 this evening...

Ahh... the good ole 88. Flew it for 12 years. Seems like quite a few hate it. A few gluttons for punishment like FTB and me like it. And the majority just tolerate it.

Did you hear about the 3 Delta pilots in an elevator? A 727 guy, an Airbus guy, and an 88 guy. So the doors start to close as this beautiful lady is walking toward the elevator wanting to get in. The 727 guy grabs the doors and tries to get them to open back up. The Airbus guy starts pushing buttons trying to get the doors open. And the 88 guy is just standing there with his arms folded saying, "why's it doing that?!"
Old 11-14-2011 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'm noticing a unfriendly vibe pointed in the general direction of the MD88 this evening...

Ahh... the good ole 88. Flew it for 12 years. Seems like quite a few hate it. A few gluttons for punishment like FTB and me like it. And the majority just tolerate it.

Did you hear about the 3 Delta pilots in an elevator? A 727 guy, a 767 guy, and an 88 guy. So the doors start to close as this beautiful lady is walking toward the elevator wanting to get in. The 727 guy grabs the doors and tries to get them to open back up. The 767 guy starts pushing buttons trying to get the doors open. And the 88 guy is just standing there with his arms folded saying, "why's it doing that?!"
Old 11-14-2011 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Ahh... the good ole 88. Flew it for 12 years. Seems like quite a few hate it. A few gluttons for punishment like FTB and me like it. And the majority just tolerate it.

Did you hear about the 3 Delta pilots in an elevator? A 727 guy, an Airbus guy, and an 88 guy. So the doors start to close as this beautiful lady is walking toward the elevator wanting to get in. The 727 guy grabs the doors and tries to get them to open back up. The Airbus guy starts pushing buttons trying to get the doors open. And the 88 guy is just standing there with his arms folded saying, "why's it doing that?!"
I hear ya. We're in a selective club aren't we DAL?

You know, the 88 don't care. It doesn't give a ****...

(everyone know the youtube video about the honey badger? just checking because this won't make any sense if you don't read it with a lisp...)
Old 11-14-2011 | 07:29 PM
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This is the MD88. Watch it sit still waiting for a gate in slow motion.


It's pretty badass. Look. It runs all over the place. "Whoa! Watch out!" says that 767.


Eew, it's got a JT8D! Oh! It's chasing a gate that's occupied with an RON! Oh my gosh!

Oh, the MD88 is just crazy!

The MD88 has been referred to by the Guinness Book of World Records as the most fearless airliner in the airline kingdom. It really doesn't give a ****. If it's late, it's late.

Eew! What's that smell from the forward lav? Oh, it leaks in the rain? Oh it can taxi backwards?

Now watch this: look a D0 just went D+1... MD88 don't care. It just goes when it wants. Whenever it's ready it just -- Eew, look at the back of that tail…. Watch it fly! Look at that ####.

The MD88 is really pretty badass. It has no regard for any other airplane whatsoever. Look at him, he's just grunting, and #######. Eew!

What's that? A split elevator on taxi? Aileron’s just flapping in the wind? Oh that's nasty. They're so nasty. Oh look it's chasing things and scaring them!

The MD88s have a fairly long body, but a distinctly thickset broad pneumatically heated strakes unless it’s a 90 then they’re electric, and, you know, their controls are on cables to tabs, allowing them to move about freely, and they twist around.

Now look: Here's the end of the runway. Do you think the MD88 cares? It doesn't give a ****, it goes right to the end to get some pavement. Flaps 5 takeoff? Flaps 28 landing plus 15 knots? How disgusting is that? Now the brakes will squeal. Eew, that's so nasty.

But look! The MD88 doesn't care! It's at the gate getting dinged like a thousand times. It doesn't give a ****. It's just hungry. It doesn't care about being dinged. Nothing can stop the MD88 when it's hungry. What a crazy ####!

It's sitting in slow-motion again. Still waiting for the gate. See?



Now, what's interesting is that other airplanes just wait around until the MD88 is done flying, and then it swoops in to pick up the scraps. It says, "You do all the work for us, MD88, and we'll just take whatever you earned, how's that? What'daya say, stupid?"

Look at this 320: "Thanks for the Song Flying and the shuttle, stupid!"

"Hey, come back here," says the MD88.

Airbuses don't care, and you know what? The Boeings do it too. Oh, look at these little RJs. They're like "Thanks stupid! Thanks for the flying! See you later." The MD88 does all the work and all these other planes just pick up the scraps.

At nightime the MD88 goes hunting for gates, because it's IROPs on a clear day in Atlanta and it’s on time but there is no room on ramp 2... so it's late.

Look! Here comes a fierce battle between passenger and a MD88 pilot. I wonder what will happen?

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Oh, look, now it’s 149 passengers instead of 142! Look at that ####, no more aft galley? Long line waiting to get on? Little does the MD88 sitting at the gate know, FYI: it's been stung! It's been bitten by the early ground power pull from the rampers who didn’t ask to pull power and air -- eew, that's disgusting -- all the poisonous venom is seeping through the MD88's electrical body, and it passes out.

Now the MD88 is going to pass out for a minute, and then it's going to get right back up and it’s ready to go, and on the way in ATTILA sends a message, slow to cross RMG 5 minutes later than the 300 cost index calculated, but that message is erased before anyone knew it was sent, because it's a tyrannical bastard. 500 cost index now!

Look at this! Like nothing happened! The MD88 gets right back in there and makes A-35 but no gate!

How disgusting. There goes the last DFW! There’s screaming in that cockpit. That DFW wasn’t due out until 15 minutes prior to the original arrival time.

And of course, what does the dejected MD88 sleep-in-the-lounge pilots have to eat for the night?

Chinese food in terminal B with that guy who is out to set the speed record for yanking your change out of the drawer, you cash wielding bastard. That guy is fast.

The MD88.



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