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Old 12-02-2011 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Just for those of you who need a laugh...

My computer died. After weeks of milking it my wife demanded I go buy a new one. the hardware is fine it's vista- it blows. So I bought a new Toshiba today at Best Buy for $350. Awesome deal to me, only one left in ATL and you couldn't order it. Happy. 17.4" screen.

Pull it out of the box, uploaded MS Office 2010 and was downloading a couple of things and was about to try it out when it got completely barfed on. So it lasted for a hour or so.

See, my 10 month old son was beside me has been sick and well when I picked him up to move him to dinner he let loose. There was a cough, and then projectile vomiting and I have to say his aiming was impeccable and distance was pretty astounding. Of course he hadn't turned his head towards it he wouldn't have hit it. It was about 5' away. Honestly I don't know how any made it to the computer, my pullover and t-shirt were soaked.

But he soaked the screen and keyboard and every crack and crevice including under the keyboard, the keys finally work now. the computer was dripping and white. it was amazing. Of course my daughter learned a new word from dada when he turned his head and saw the computer.

Now I spent the evening cleaning up the keyboard in between two sick kids falling to pieces and one's potty training becoming a disaster from her illness. of course when she fell on the baby that made all that look like child's play.

I need to yellow slip.

my wife wants to yellow slip first though.

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That stinks! I'm pretty sure I just bought the same one this week. Great deal IMHO
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Just for those of you who need a laugh...

My computer died. After weeks of milking it my wife demanded I go buy a new one. the hardware is fine it's vista- it blows. So I bought a new Toshiba today at Best Buy for $350. Awesome deal to me, only one left in ATL and you couldn't order it. Happy. 17.4" screen.

Pull it out of the box, uploaded MS Office 2010 and was downloading a couple of things and was about to try it out when it got completely barfed on. So it lasted for a hour or so.

See, my 10 month old son was beside me has been sick and well when I picked him up to move him to dinner he let loose. There was a cough, and then projectile vomiting and I have to say his aiming was impeccable and distance was pretty astounding. Of course he hadn't turned his head towards it he wouldn't have hit it. It was about 5' away. Honestly I don't know how any made it to the computer, my pullover and t-shirt were soaked.

But he soaked the screen and keyboard and every crack and crevice including under the keyboard, the keys finally work now. the computer was dripping and white. it was amazing. Of course my daughter learned a new word from dada when he turned his head and saw the computer.

Now I spent the evening cleaning up the keyboard in between two sick kids falling to pieces and one's potty training becoming a disaster from her illness. of course when she fell on the baby that made all that look like child's play.

I need to yellow slip.

my wife wants to yellow slip first though.

FTB
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That sucks! Is there any sort of coverage on it?



In my attempts to "need" to replace my 2007 lappy, I've spilled drinks (adult and family) on it before, sent it down escalators in the airport, and dribbled goodness knows how many crumbs onto it. Stupid thing still keeps trucking.

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Old 12-02-2011 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That sucks! Is there any sort of coverage on it?



In my attempts to "need" to replace my 2007 lappy, I've spilled drinks (adult and family) on it before, sent it down escalators in the airport, and dribbled goodness knows how many crumbs onto it. Stupid thing still keeps trucking.

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if that isn't birthcontrol I don't know what is....Please don't tell me any more stories like that as I have a 5 month old son....Wifie wants another in a year or two, now I am thinking maby not...
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by whatsitdoinnow
if that isn't birthcontrol I don't know what is....Please don't tell me any more stories like that as I have a 5 month old son....Wifie wants another in a year or two, now I am thinking maby not...
My wife is working on me to want to have them... she wanted one yesterday. I suppose next year will be the year I start trying to send one past the goalie.....
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:39 PM
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From the time the first merged list came out in October of '08, until yesterday, we have had 613 pilots retire, resign, get canned, or otherwise "depart" the seniority list. Pretty sure the vast majority of those pilots were under 65. Here's how it breaks down by year:

Oct - Dec 2008: 10
2009: 203
2010: 156
2011: (YTD) 244

Also of note: We added 235 new bodies in 2010, so net loss of pilot positions since the merger is 378, thus far.
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:39 PM
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well our secret was do a long weekend in Dublin...We sure came home with a pot of gold!! Guinness has high folic acid (good for baby/brain development) and the Irish usto prescribe it for pregnant women. Also, we almost made our son's middle name Guinness
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:47 PM
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Also of note: From an R & I report from last spring, roughly 60% of pilots were remaining active to 62 and 63, and about 70% to 61. Its probably a pretty safe assumption that roughly 50% will remain active to 65.
Old 12-02-2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The measurement period metric and compliance proviso applies after we hit 49.5 or essentially 50-50. If that happens in any one of these three years leading up to March 2014, the lookback is gone and we start that window.
That is my understanding too. It is a monthly snapshot. Lets talk about what this MOU did:
  • Ailitalia was added
  • Martinair was taken out of the AF figures so they could transfer flying there to side step our labor agreement
  • Delta's baseline decreased from 51.7 to what must be at least 48.5% (50%-1.5%)
  • Each month a percentage is measured. That percentage stands on its own and is not averaged
  • 12 month breach language removed
  • "end of summer" breach language removed
  • 90 day cure language removed
  • three year breach language added
  • Over three years Delta's flying must be at least 48.5%.* If Delta breaches our agreement, Delta then has 12 months to become compliant. If during that 12 months, the monthly percentage is = or > 48.5% the measurement period beings anew.
  • earliest compliance could be required is 31 March 2015
If anyone understood the agreement they would be very upset. The language is sufficiently obtuse to confuse nearly everyone, including whomever might be called on to render a decision on a grievance.
Originally Posted by sailingfun
Made a simple phone call on the AF agreement. What was not noted here is that if the company falls out of compliance in a measurement period they have to come back into compliance in 12 months for the 3 year look back period. That means that if they allow Delta to fall even a small amount behind the 48.5 percent number they would have to have a massive increase in flying in the correction year to get back to the rolling 3 year average. It in effect makes its very difficult if not impossible for the company to fall below the average it needs. The routes picked up from AF this winter are to insure the company does not fall into that situation. A significant portion of the reductions to Europe are to allow for the lie flat seat mod on the 7ER fleet. There will be a issue again next winter as they complete the mod line for the aircraft. As we pick up the flying in the Spring AF will pick back up the ORD route. SEA may stick with us.
The word "average" appears no where in the document, or its definitions. It is written as a rolling three year time period with measurements calculated on monthly percentages. One month's compliance resets the window.

I thought through a number of scenarios to unscrew this ... couldn't come up with anything that would have a positive result other than supporting our MEC.

* No comment is made in the source document about the calculation of the percentage flying. In a public interview XX told the pilots that the calculations were made on a month by month basis and that those figures were NOT carried forward as an average, or aggregate.

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Old 12-02-2011 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That sucks! Is there any sort of coverage on it?



In my attempts to "need" to replace my 2007 lappy, I've spilled drinks (adult and family) on it before, sent it down escalators in the airport, and dribbled goodness knows how many crumbs onto it. Stupid thing still keeps trucking.

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My dad worked for IBM so I got his old laptop when I went to college.



Only weighed 30 lbs and had a whopping 256k RAM (No Hard Drive). The dot matrix printer killed.
Old 12-02-2011 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
Then there is PWA 1.P.4 Note Two
If the company reaches 49.75% for a 12 month period, all previous capacity share percentages will be disregarded and a new three year measurement period begins.

If we fly 40%, 40%, 49.75% our average will be 43.25 but because of Note Two, Delta is off the hook because it met the 49.75% for the last rolling 12-month period.
One year of nearly 50% flying wipes out all accrued flying-deficit from previous years.
Wow. Is there any floor for the two down years then? Can they go zero, zero, 49.75%? What is our lower limit, and YTF does one single year of still below 50% fix 2 years of unlimited downside? Who would ever agree to something as asinine as that? Is that really what this new unilaterally ramrodded MOU allows?

Its not that I have a stedfast faith in ALPA or whatever, but I have a hard time imagining anyone would agree to something as insane as that. Is this really what we just did to ourselves?

If this is true, we need to watch out for a similar POS for Pacific JV's and even South America JV's. I can just see it now...we rotate to grab 49.75% of one theatre every 3 years as we gut the other two for two years. Someone please tell me this is not how it is (and please show your work so a simple guy can understand it).
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