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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 1105375)
Since our negotiations will start about 9 months prior to the amendable date, that leaves about a year of negotiations. That is much sooner than the NMB normally gets involved. The only reason it will be a year afterwards in our case (assuming we don't have an agreement) is that we've written that into our contract. Without that, the NMB would not get involved until somebody tries to declare an impasse...which is normally a number of years worth of negotiations.
Therefore, everything I've stated about this process regarding the NMB is entirely accurate. But feel free to continue making a fool of yourself. Carl Originally Posted by Carl Spackler http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif The NMB is not involved from the start, so you don't have to worry about losing them from the start. They're only involved at the end of the normal process when one or more parties seek the NMB. Carl Quote: Originally Posted by Carl Spackler http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif Regardless, the NMB is not involved in openers or negotiations until their latter stages. Carl So please enlighten this fool. So is your final answer in regards to the NMB: A: "That is much sooner than the NMB normally gets involved." B: "They're only involved at the end of the normal process when one or more parties seek the NMB." or C: "Regardless, the NMB is not involved in openers or negotiations until their latter stages." Those would be three completely different statements/time lines. I don't waste my time teaching my dog calculus. I should do the same in having a logical discussion with Mr. Almighty Whale Captain. |
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
(Post 1105472)
on short call reserve: we do not have to exceed the max contractual duty day listed on rotation plus 2 hours right? thx
You mean, after you have been assigned a trip, right? Or are you just talking about sitting at home, waiting for a trip? Short call is not considered "Duty", nor is it "Rest", so once you get a trip, no, you are not required to go past the max duty day listed on the rotation, plus 2. BUT...you also have to be able to look at your release time of that rotation, look back 24 hours, and be able to find 8 hours of "Rest", of which your short call time is not considered as "Rest". |
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
(Post 1105472)
on short call reserve: we do not have to exceed the max contractual duty day listed on rotation plus 2 hours right? thx
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Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1105476)
To get an accurate answer, why don't you call the ALPA office and speak with one of the scheduling experts. 800 USA ALPA is the number. You'll be able to assert your contractual rights with a lot more confidence using what they tell you rather than that from some anonymous webboard pseudonym here.
What he said, and you know there is another web board called the DALPA board, which has a scheduling section. So if you run into something before 9am, or after 5pm, or on a weekend or holdiay, you can get some info from the Scheduling committee there, usually. I also keep their home phone numbers and cell phone numbers on speed dial! |
Originally Posted by LandGreen2
(Post 1105472)
on short call reserve: we do not have to exceed the max contractual duty day listed on rotation plus 2 hours right? thx
I think I know what you are getting at, but spell it out for them. The short answer is that domestically Whitlow applies but sitting at home does not apply to max sked duty day that is outlined in the PWA, say 13 hrs, plus two to 15. Effectively on domestic SC you can be flown up to 15+30 from the start of your SC, plus 30 mins after block in to equal 16 hrs. |
If accurate, this article gives a glimpse at the new rest rules....
FAA issues new rules on pilot fatigue - Flight 3407 - The Buffalo News |
Originally Posted by One Taco
(Post 1105527)
If accurate, this article gives a glimpse at the new rest rules....
FAA issues new rules on pilot fatigue - Flight 3407 - The Buffalo News |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1105541)
If the cargo carriers really got exempt, then it is a major loss for them, and for our underbelly freight business.
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Originally Posted by tsquare
(Post 1105544)
That's a pretty big leap. How do you figure that will affect our cargo (in which there's no money anyway)?
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Originally Posted by freightguy
(Post 1105545)
Shipping costs with cargo-only carriers will decrease which will give the cargo-only carriers an (deleted) advantage over us.
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