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Timbo 12-22-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 1106628)
Good point. I guess the whole safety things isn't that pressing.

S.A.Y.L. = Safety At Your Leisure or,

S.T.Y.T = Safety Take Your Time


At least that's the way it is when it comes to pilots.

As I recall, a few Air Traffic Controllers fall asleep at the desk and their rules are changed in a month or so. .

The Colgan accident occurred almost 3 years ago and we have to wait another two years for the resulting "new rules for safety" to be implemented.


AND an airplane overflew it's destination, and before any invetigation was begun, to see if maybe these guys were fatigued, Randy Babbit ordered their tickets pulled.

Karma's a beoch, ain't it Randy? :rolleyes:

Timbo 12-22-2011 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 1106540)
You mean the Company lied?...Man stop drinking the cool aid. Time to start drinking the beverage Cobra Gold...Brewed in DTW


How many times does the MEC have to watch this clip, before they get a clue??

Animal House--"You F'ed up, you trusted us" - YouTube

Flounder = Dalpa.

Otter = Richard

BigGuns 12-22-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106332)
I will agree with that, if after the terminal connector is done, we do not change the gauge in to these markets. Right now it will be a connecting nightmare. DAL better have approval to run buses between the terminals inside security.

Do keep in mind AA has been making connecting pax go though security between C & D gates since the mid 1990's. No busses!

BigGuns 12-22-2011 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1106312)
Remember back in 2010:


Current Status:
18 months after service start, still all EMB-170 Shuttle America
June 10 2012, 2-years later: still all EMB-170 Shuttle America

You know, because LGA-ORD is an "emerging market"...

Winning!

Cheers
George

Well that's what happens... ORD-LGA is a total suite and tie market. UAL flies 757s or 319/320 with TVs and room vs DAL on a E-170 where you get stuck checking your carry-on because the pilots and FAs have stuffed 4-5 of the overhead bins with their overnight bags and bags filled with 5 days of Romen Noodles.

Or you can buy a 1st class ticket on AA flying a 738 or MD80 where you get a 2 course, hot steak dinner with a hot cookie for dessert, or Delta (DCI Shuttle America) where you get a FA that does not do a beverage service on the ground, then a hour into the flight finally drops off your meal the disappears to go play "Angry Birds" in the last row of the A/C (which btw they ask customers to move out of...).

Just like RJ's helped us to build the LGA-ORD market, (which btw is the highest traveled passenger market in the USA (1,125,000+ pax 2010)), the RJs will help us build Delta's NYC market. :rolleyes:

When you build a market, why not put your best product on the market not your cheapest?

I think we just gave Jet Blue a big win for their newly acquired slots!!! :eek:

Timbo 12-22-2011 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1106673)
Well that's what happens... ORD-LGA is a total suite and tie market. UAL flies 757s or 319/320 with TVs and room vs DAL on a E-170 where you get stuck checking your carry-on because the pilots and FAs have stuffed 4-5 of the overhead bins with their overnight bags and bags filled with 5 days of Romen Noodles.

Or you can buy a 1st class ticket on AA flying a 738 or MD80 where you get a hot 2 course hot steak dinner with a hot cookie for dessert, or Delta (DCI Shuttle America) where you get a FA that does not do a beverage service on the ground, then a hour into the flight finally drops off your meal the disappears to go play "Angry Birds" in the last row of the A/C (which btw they ask customers to move out of...).

Just like RJ's helped us to build the LGA-ORD market, which btw is the highest traveled passenger market in the USA (3,000,000+ pax 2010), the RJs will help us build Delta's NYC market. :rolleyes:

When you build a market, why not put your best product on the market not your cheapest?

I think we just gave Jet Blue a big win for their newly acquired slots!!!:eek:

I just kills me that Management says the RJ is NOW going to help "Develop new markets..." Some of the same markets that 20 years ago, Delta was flying with FULL L10-11's (LGA-FLL, MIA, PBI) and almost hourly 727's (LGA-ORD, DFW).

At one time, the DFW Pilot base was nearly as big as ATL, about 2,500 pilots, had 737's, MD88's, 757, 767, DC 8 and L10-11 pilots based there, and had International service to LGW and FRA.

Oh, and we also had a pilot base at ORD, 727's and DC 9's (they did all of the flying that those RJ's are doing today).

But now, the RJ is going to help develop those same markets...

Brilliant! Where's my Bonus? :rolleyes:

forgot to bid 12-22-2011 07:23 PM

That's like 15 passes from the 6 yard line.

forgot to bid 12-22-2011 07:27 PM

Thanks for the card Newk.

I think.


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80ktsClamp 12-22-2011 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1106681)
I just kills me that Management says the RJ is NOW going to help "Develop new markets..." Some of the same markets that 20 years ago, Delta was flying with FULL L10-11's (LGA-FLL, MIA, PBI) and almost hourly 727's (LGA-ORD, DFW).

At one time, the DFW Pilot base was nearly as big as ATL, about 2,500 pilots, had 737's, MD88's, 757, 767, DC 8 and L10-11 pilots based there, and had International service to LGW and FRA.

Oh, and we also had a pilot base at ORD, 727's and DC 9's (they did all of the flying that those RJ's are doing today).

But now, the RJ is going to help develop those same markets...

Brilliant! Where's my Bonus? :rolleyes:

It sure would be nice if DALPA called the company's obvious and half hearted bluff to justify the RJocalypse in LGA.... but that might be asking too much.

I really thought at the beginning of that C44 letter that they might actually be starting to play some hardball. I don't know why I'm surprised each time I'm so very disappointed in them...

forgot to bid 12-22-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 1106673)

I think we just gave Jet Blue a big win for their newly acquired slots!!!

No way. You act like the ERJ-145 at DCI...

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1296/4...9609d100_z.jpg

is not as good as a Jetblue E190 staffed by Jetblue employees...

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1110422.jpg

You're just wrong. Because watch, for as long as we compete with them on this route, it'll be on that E145 operated by an airline we probably signed a long term expensive contract with a guaranteed profit or something.

See! So it's obvious, the E145 flown by some DCI is better than that Jetblue thing and so people are going to flock to us.

Of course if we get 717s... nah, Delta will never ever get 717s.

newKnow 12-22-2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1106687)

That's right, I ain't goin' 'cause I can't. Seems as though green slips only come up with I am on vacation! :D

....Plus, if I've got a "spread" like that, it's best for me to say home. :)


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