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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1106690)
It sure would be nice if DALPA called the company's obvious and half hearted bluff to justify the RJocalypse in LGA.... but that might be asking too much.
I really thought at the beginning of that C44 letter that they might actually be starting to play some hardball. I don't know why I'm surprised each time I'm so very disappointed in them... Fellow Council 66 members, Friday's LGA schedule announcement for spring 2012 has caused many of our members to express both anger and disappointment. If you are one of those individuals, read on. Brief history: The slot swap deal was originally proposed almost two years ago, but met with stiff regulatory resistance. Modified terms and the United-Continental and Southwest-AirTran mergers changed the landscape such that regulators eventually approved a modified deal. On December 16, Delta announced its new schedule for the first phase of an eventual LaGuardia hub. Of more than 100 new flights and 29 new destinations, only 7.5 percent were designated as mainline. A number of our pilots are just plain angry at reading about so many RJ, and so few mainline flights. Pilots are upset over their lack of career progression. Many perceive the two to be directly related. Because the company never stated publicly, in advance of the transaction, how many slots would be flown by mainline — the ratio of mainline to regional flying has come as a shock to many of our pilots.After all, if Delta was awarded the slots, why does it appear that other companies are benefitting from the transaction?Many of us had the expectation that a greater proportion of mainline flying would be announced. Naturally, there is disappointment. We are disappointed as well. We can’t justify or explain management’s marketing/networking rationale. That responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of Delta management, and the MEC administration has communicated to management that they should more clearly communicate the long-term plan for the LGA hub. With that said, the reality is that this expansion is far from an end-state. We will not know what the end-state will look like for some time, possibly 2-3 years by some estimates. We won’t attempt to justify the schedule for LGA, because we don’t make those decisions, but we do believe that ultimately it is in the best interests of the Delta pilots for Delta to dominate the NYC market. So here goes our take on the facts, as best we know them. As your elected representatives, we are happy to discuss this and any other issues with you, at any time. But we will not make false predictions, nor will we speculate.
As always, we remain open to your thoughts and ideas, and we welcome your comments. Fly safe. Chairman Council 66 Capt. Rep Vice Chairman Council 66 F/O Rep Secretary-Treasurer |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 1106704)
December 20, 2011
Fellow Council 66 members, Friday's LGA schedule announcement for spring 2012 has caused many of our members to express both anger and disappointment. If you are one of those individuals, read on.....
Fly safe. Chairman Council 66 Capt. Rep Vice Chairman Council 66 F/O Rep Secretary-Treasurer |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1106691)
No way. You act like the ERJ-145 at DCI...
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1296/4...9609d100_z.jpg is not as good as a Jetblue E190 staffed by Jetblue employees... http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../4/1110422.jpg You're just wrong. Because watch, for as long as we compete with them on this route, it'll be on that E145 operated by an airline we probably signed a long term expensive contract with a guaranteed profit or something. See! So it's obvious, the E145 flown by some DCI is better than that Jetblue thing and so people are going to flock to us. Of course if we get 717s... nah, Delta will never ever get 717s. Hey, who's that F/A standing up there? He's hot! You know what walking a tight rope, and getting a BJ from one of our Senior Mommas has in common? It's not too scary, as long as you don't look down...:eek: |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1106707)
I had to edit the letter to include what I wish more people would say.....;)
Which brings up a question. Back when I was in middle school Naughty by Nature came out with "You down with OPP?" Now we all know what OPP meant. Our teacher tried to tell us that he "knew what it meant" and therefore was cool- but most of us really didn't know what it meant. That's beside the point. it's time to ask DALPA, you down with OPP? As in other people's planes? Cuz I ain't down with it. That or OPP. Old Peoples Pectorals [IMAGE]ERASED[IMAGE] Image was an old man wearing a wal-mart plastic trash bag, the ones not big enough to hold a box of pizza, with legs cut out and his arms in the handles, must not be mentally balanced. So I will erase the picture. Consider yourself lucky. |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1106712)
Hey, who's that F/A standing up there? He's hot!
You know what walking a tight rope, and getting a BJ from one of our Senior Mommas has in common? It's not too scary, as long as you don't look down...:eek: |
Originally Posted by newKnow
(Post 1106703)
That's right, I ain't goin' 'cause I can't. Seems as though green slips only come up with I am on vacation! :D
....Plus, if I've got a "spread" like that, it's best for me to say home. :) See that must have been pre marriage days. You holding the dog and she sitting like that, those things don't happen after marriage and they sure as hell don't happen after kids. :D |
Speaking of kids, it's 1228am, they'll be up in an hour.
See ya! |
Originally Posted by BigGuns
(Post 1106704)
December 20, 2011
Fellow Council 66 members, Friday's LGA schedule announcement for spring 2012 has caused many of our members to express both anger and disappointment. If you are one of those individuals, read on. Brief history: The slot swap deal was originally proposed almost two years ago, but met with stiff regulatory resistance. Modified terms and the United-Continental and Southwest-AirTran mergers changed the landscape such that regulators eventually approved a modified deal. On December 16, Delta announced its new schedule for the first phase of an eventual LaGuardia hub. Of more than 100 new flights and 29 new destinations, only 7.5 percent were designated as mainline. A number of our pilots are just plain angry at reading about so many RJ, and so few mainline flights. Pilots are upset over their lack of career progression. Many perceive the two to be directly related. Because the company never stated publicly, in advance of the transaction, how many slots would be flown by mainline — the ratio of mainline to regional flying has come as a shock to many of our pilots.After all, if Delta was awarded the slots, why does it appear that other companies are benefitting from the transaction?Many of us had the expectation that a greater proportion of mainline flying would be announced. Naturally, there is disappointment. We are disappointed as well. We can’t justify or explain management’s marketing/networking rationale. That responsibility rests squarely on the shoulders of Delta management, and the MEC administration has communicated to management that they should more clearly communicate the long-term plan for the LGA hub. With that said, the reality is that this expansion is far from an end-state. We will not know what the end-state will look like for some time, possibly 2-3 years by some estimates. We won’t attempt to justify the schedule for LGA, because we don’t make those decisions, but we do believe that ultimately it is in the best interests of the Delta pilots for Delta to dominate the NYC market. So here goes our take on the facts, as best we know them. As your elected representatives, we are happy to discuss this and any other issues with you, at any time. But we will not make false predictions, nor will we speculate.
As always, we remain open to your thoughts and ideas, and we welcome your comments. Fly safe. Chairman Council 66 Capt. Rep Vice Chairman Council 66 F/O Rep Secretary-Treasurer But they always touted how they would improve the NYC airspace by adding capacity and reducing arrivals/departures. Although they never gave a ratio they definately implied that mainline would be doing the majority of the flying. This was further perpetrated by rumors coming from the LCA meetings that 70%ish would be mainline. Let's face it boys we were dupped. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1106720)
That's an awfully tiny tog you're holding there newk.
See that must have been pre marriage days. You holding the dog and she sitting like that, those things don't happen after marriage and they sure as hell don't happen after kids. :D If I were a 20th century airline pilot, I could claim the wife, jewelry, house, and I would have gotten a bigger, meaner looking dog. :D Ok. Time to hit the books. C-ya! |
While flying a transcon tonight, I overheard a lot of pilots talking on guard about CNBC saying that AMR, jetBlue, and USAir were tying the knot. Any truth to that?
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