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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106277)

To summarize, the initial allocation of flying as a result of this slot swap is not what we envisioned two years ago. The long-term expectations of Delta pilots remains the same. We expect the Slot Swap to be good for Delta pilots and for Delta, and that formed the basis for our support for this transaction. While the slot swap will not initially generate the jobs we were lead to believe, that doesn’t take away from the strategic importance of this transaction and the additional revenue it will generate, which we were all instrumental in obtaining, revenue which should support significant improvements in our new contract and potentially provide mainline growth opportunities in the future. It’s also important to recognize the real estate component of the transaction. It is as important as the slots and will take time to develop.

Really? The alleged additional revenue SHOULD support significant contract improvements?

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106277)

Finally, the value of the Delta pilot’s participation in this process should not be lost on anyone.

You bet! Surely our participation coupled with the alleged revenue increase will be noted by management and our "significant" improvements will come. Right?

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106277)

The entire corporate executive team knew of our involvement on the political side of getting the slot swap approved. From the Board of Directors, to senior leadership, corporate communications, and Flight Operations leadership, there was little if any mention of the role we played in assisting on the political side of the transaction. Delta’s senior executive team could have, and should have, better communicated in advance how the slot swap was going to be implemented.

Dang! I was so hopeful. :rolleyes: These council 44 guys that wrote this letter sound like the Stockholm Syndrome is wearing on them. I appreciate their efforts in communicating, but this is embarrassing. Constructive engagement just died here folks. Does management have to actually come over and drive a stake through its heart to prove it to you? When our union makes excuses for this, it makes us all look weak.

Carl

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1106517)

Really? The alleged additional revenue SHOULD support significant contract improvements?

You bet! Surely our participation coupled with the alleged revenue increase will be noted by management and our "significant" improvements will come. Right?

Dang! I was so hopeful. :rolleyes: These council 44 guys that wrote this letter sound like the Stockholm Syndrome is wearing on them. I appreciate their efforts in communicating, but this is embarrassing. Constructive engagement just died here folks. Does management have to actually come over and drive a stake through its heart to prove it to you? When our union makes excuses for this, it makes us all look weak.

Carl

Exactly................this is why I don't waste my time writing letters clicking on Company provided links..."help us ALPA the sky is falling and if you help us we will help you". My RD friends have'nt figured out that the Company is out for themselves not for you and me

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106277)

Figured I would share this:

Council 44 Slot Swap Perspective

Prior to your C44 reps taking office, the corporation had already approached ALPA to ask for help and support for this transaction. After we assumed our elected positions, we were asked to intensify our efforts, as there appeared to be little progress being made in the corporation’s favor. Although we all want to work for a strong, profitable company, and no doubt the transaction would assist in that, we also wanted to know the impact this would have on Delta pilots directly. In other words, would this mean more flying for mainline pilots? The answer then was yes.

You mean the Company lied?...Man stop drinking the cool aid. Time to start drinking the beverage Cobra Gold...Brewed in DTW

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Originally Posted by JobHopper (Post 1106140)

Memphis Reserve ramp. Single point refueling valve inop; the fuelers manually put all the fuel in one wing first, causing the airplane to tip.

I don't know who told you that, I was in the unit then, and AFAIK, Acft scheduled to depart for Ramstein with crew and pax for deployment of change over personnel. Scheduled for Air Refueling with TYS 135. Tanker cnx'd, so plan changed to upload fuel to reflect new plan. Acft mechanical, only other acft was in fuel cell mx hangar. Former CBPO commander, now mx chief orders acft out of fuel cell mx, and no fuel mx personnel available. No worries, have crew chiefs prep the plane, (unauthorized).Acft had fuel system check valve plugs installed, plugs had flanges ground off so they could all fit in a bag to carry, (unauthorized). Flange prevents closure of access doors to fuel line bays. At approximately 90,000 lbs of upload, overpressure of fuel lines collapses wing box and fuel and wing collapse and Flight Engineer swims in fuel while doing his walkaround. AF Safety investigation finds cause with MX Commander and violation of multiple procedures. Mx Commander promoted below zone to O-6 and new job at Houston Barracks.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1106326)

As with everything, if the pilot go gravitate to the next shiny ball, and do not continually state their discontent with what the company did here, then nothing will ever by gained.

DALPA is very good at "going along to get along." Apparently their learning curve is flat. How many times will it take to learn the lesson? That memo was a pulled punch with kid gloves from four reps.

NOTHING from the MEC that states in no uncertain terms, "We were used. We will not let this happen again. We are done rolling over. Saddle up for a bloody fight on C2012."

Instead...crickets. Weak, impotent crickets. Another abdication of leadership.

Time for a new bargaining agent.

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Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 1106536)

. My RD friends have'nt figured out that the Company is out for themselves not for you and me

Yea, that's it. We RD's dont have it figured out like you northwest guys. Since were busting chops here, I have one.

What 3 things do all NW pilots have that RD pilots don't
1. Free uniform (merger)
2. 20% pay raise (merger)
3. Rejection letter from Delta Air Lines

Before people get too nuts..I'm just kidding. We are lucky to have merged with Northwest. I heard that one the other day and had to share. Now back to writing "call to action letters "so alpa can increase flying for our conncection partners.

Go Rangers!

When I got to number 3, I wasn't laughing....when I read the qualifying paragraph, finally got it. I admit, it is funny....:):):)

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1106189)

Anyone else see that there will be no more 24 hour short call for intl???!!? Score!

In two years.

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Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1106621)

In two years.

Good point. I guess the whole safety things isn't that pressing.

S.A.Y.L. = Safety At Your Leisure or,

S.T.Y.T = Safety Take Your Time

At least that's the way it is when it comes to pilots.

As I recall, a few Air Traffic Controllers fall asleep at the desk and their rules are changed in a month or so. .

The Colgan accident occurred almost 3 years ago and we have to wait another two years for the resulting "new rules for safety" to be implemented.

RJs taking all the new slots in LGA? Eddie I wouldn't be more surprised if I woke up tomorrow with my head stapled to the carpet