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Timbo 11-01-2011 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1078405)
Yeah the slot swap was supposed to create a need for more pilots but looks like it will be little more than capacity neutral reshuffling and half to 2/3 DCI. Maybe we can give some slots to AK so they can feed our international RJ's to Canada.


As I recall, in that early out program there were about 30 747 Capt. and 30 A330 Capt's who left, and in the last A/E (M/D) there were 15 777 Capt. displacements...so...unless there are 75 Wide Body Capt. A/E's in this next bid, I'd hardly call it neutral.

DC 9's getting bumped -up- to MD90's, yes, that's a good thing, but how about replacing some of the 75 missing wide body Capt.s?

kamsman 11-01-2011 11:54 AM

Who gets the money from the slot swap auction? DAL, USAIR or the Government?

full of luv 11-01-2011 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by kamsman (Post 1078409)
Who gets the money from the slot swap auction? DAL, USAIR or the Government?

Exactly my question as well!!!

meyers9163 11-01-2011 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by kamsman (Post 1078409)
Who gets the money from the slot swap auction? DAL, USAIR or the Government?

They are ASSETS of USairways and DAL... So as ASSETS it would only make sense the Airlines did..... Why would the government? Much like RAH trying to SELL SLOTS to generate money..... Republic/Midwest etc own those slot rights.

BigGuns 11-01-2011 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 1078415)
They are ASSETS of USairways and DAL... So as ASSETS it would only make sense the Airlines did..... Why would the government? Much like RAH trying to SELL SLOTS to generate money..... Republic/Midwest etc own those slot rights.

Using logic with govt process.... You should know better!

BigGuns 11-01-2011 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1078388)
Guy on the DALPA board said the AE will be out either this friday or the next. Closing the mem DC9 base, no new categories. Neutral bid (surpluses and awards roughly equal).

MEM DC9 will close.... Aprox 30 CA and 30 FO. NYC 88 B is 30 short. MSP 88 CA is 30 short. overall net 0 on this bid.

full of luv 11-01-2011 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 1078415)
They are ASSETS of USairways and DAL... So as ASSETS it would only make sense the Airlines did..... Why would the government? Much like RAH trying to SELL SLOTS to generate money..... Republic/Midwest etc own those slot rights.

Well then why would the FAA be involved in the transaction at all? Seems that if they were truly just assets, DAL could sell them to whoever they wanted instead of running an auction through the FAA, or was selling them through an FAA auction just part of the DOT's conditions in this swap case?

johnso29 11-01-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1078407)
As I recall, in that early out program there were about 30 747 Capt. and 30 A330 Capt's who left, and in the last A/E (M/D) there were 15 777 Capt. displacements...so...unless there are 75 Wide Body Capt. A/E's in this next bid, I'd hardly call it neutral.

DC 9's getting bumped -up- to MD90's, yes, that's a good thing, but how about replacing some of the 75 missing wide body Capt.s?

I believe the AE before the last had 744 displacements which were nullified by the retirements. Also, I believe 744 flying will be down YOY so seat mods can be done to the fleet.

johnso29 11-01-2011 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1078405)
Yeah the slot swap was supposed to create a need for more pilots but looks like it will be little more than capacity neutral reshuffling and half to 2/3 DCI. Maybe we can give some slots to AK so they can feed our international RJ's to Canada.

It's likely the slot swap won't even be in effect for the conversion date of the next AE. Nice sarcasm though.

sailingfun 11-01-2011 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1078446)
I believe the AE before the last had 744 displacements which were nullified by the retirements. Also, I believe 744 flying will be down YOY so seat mods can be done to the fleet.

Many displaced 747 pilots were also reinstated as well as a bunch of A330 pilots.


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