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Amish Pilot 02-15-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1135455)
The one thing about senior pilots bidding reserve for time off... you don't know what the buckets will be and they dont have to say until the last day of the previous month. I can assure you the union will fight for as high as possible, at least from what I've gathered in emails, so if you like that great if not... I guess that's who is calling resources complaining.

I'll be interested to see what happens with the buckets this next time around.

Me too! I bid reserve next month......:cool:

TeddyKGB 02-15-2012 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Amish Pilot (Post 1135517)
Me too! I bid reserve next month......:cool:

The bucket system is nothing more than a tie breaker. There are still a bunch of random variables that determine who gets assigned trips. Some of the most senior pilots have the highest raw scores while some of the most junior pilots have the lowest raw scores. The raw bucket only breaks a tie so if you are senior bidding reserve with the hopes of not flying good luck, you will need it.

Express pilot 02-15-2012 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1135530)
The bucket system is nothing more than a tie breaker. There are still a bunch of random variables that determine who gets assigned trips. Some of the most senior pilots have the highest raw scores while some of the most junior pilots have the lowest raw scores. The raw bucket only breaks a tie so if you are senior bidding reserve with the hopes of not flying good luck, you will need it.

Wrong Chewbacca, raw 0-80 the junior guy in your group of days gets the trip. Its hard to get a trip if you have 10-12 guys ahead of you everyday of the week.

Boomer 02-15-2012 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1135450)
...known as Next Gen, the Washington Post reported.

...the complex Next Gen. system...

...NextGen is seen as essential...

So we're getting Next Gen, Next Gen., and NextGen.

I wonder if it would be cheaper to just fund one instead of all three? :confused:

iaflyer 02-15-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1135540)
Its hard to get a trip if you have 10-12 guys ahead of you everyday of the week.

Yep, probably on the 88 you do. Meanwhile, on some other categories, there is only two or three people per Day of Availability.

forgot to bid 02-15-2012 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1135543)
So we're getting Next Gen, Next Gen., and NextGen.

I wonder if it would be cheaper to just fund one instead of all three? :confused:

Damn. Nothing gets by you.

Let's prep you for a SWA interview, find the cat:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fhaw4K9mxP...+Cat+-+002.jpg

forgot to bid 02-15-2012 12:37 PM

I was fishing around the roster reports, trying to get back to mine (dang pgup and pgdn buttons) and I saw this on someones bid:
Warning: You have a Start Next in your last bid group. If the Start Next in this bid group triggers, PBS will jump to the system generated bid groups below which contain no preferences. The system generated bid groups will cause PBS to first try to build any regular line than try to build any reserve line if it is unable to build a regular line. See PBS Notepad 36 for more details..

Disclaimer: This warning was added to the Navtech reasons report by Delta and the ALPA PBS Committee. These are advisory only. We hope these alerts are helpful, but you will have to judge as to whether or not this warning is applicable and requires a change to your bidding strategy. w3
I've got to hand it to the ALPA PBS and/or Navtech folks, smart to add some helpful hints.

And this is the warning that keeps me from down bidding off the 88/90 to the 737 or A320:
Warning: You are junior. You were unstacked into everything you didn't want. Next time, be more senior. Or just don't bid because you wasted your time. We will see you on the first day of the month, you will be at the top of the RUO. We will abuse you. Have fun. See Seniority List and Category List for more details..

Boomer 02-15-2012 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1135545)
Damn. Nothing gets by you.

Let's prep you for a SWA interview, find the cat:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fhaw4K9mxP...+Cat+-+002.jpg

I don't see my car in that picture, and I know the cat is mashed in my tire treads.

Do I get the job?

forgot to bid 02-15-2012 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1135551)
I don't see my car in that picture, and I know the cat is mashed in my tire treads.

Do I get the job?

hmmmm, you destroyed your car? I like that. It shows real commitment to the cause.

So will your 737 type before you apply. It's almost equal nowadays and remind them of that if you decide not to get your type beforehand.

10 points to the first SWA interviewee that makes a joke about killing kittens. 80? Can you apply again just to go on the interview and say that you sacrificed kittens prior to your 737 ride?

TeddyKGB 02-15-2012 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1135540)
Wrong Chewbacca, raw 0-80 the junior guy in your group of days gets the trip. Its hard to get a trip if you have 10-12 guys ahead of you everyday of the week.

Yes and no. Short call start times are a big wild card. Last week the most senior guy in the bucket had a raw of 10 due to 2 short calls. He was the 3am guy and got called at 4am for a 7am show for a 5 day trip. There were several junior guys on short call who were also good for a 5 day trip but their SC contact time didn't start until 8-10am so guess who got the trip, yup, the most senior guy. I could give you a dozen more examples where a senior guy will fly before a junior guy but I am late to meet my girl for happy hour. Again, bucket is just a tie breaker if all else is equal.


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