Your coach doesn't believe in QBs, so, pick up Tebow when Elway waves him. He's a Lovie Smith type QB. :D

Wait til post game, see if there is a fight. :D

BTW, Brees is a maniac but since MSY has already won a super bowl, I'd like someone to shut them down. They're fans are annoying and I don't even have a dog in any fight in the NFL, I gave up on my team over a decade and a half ago and have been homeless ever since. I just cheer for Auburn folks or however I feel at the moment. It's nice. I already have one team I'm married to come hell or high water so it's nice just to enjoy NFL football without a care.

Did C2K trade pay for scope?
 

Posted this over in the DPA thread in response to another post. But thought it might be of interest over here as well:


Since SWA management has not wanted outsourcing and SWAPA has not allowed it, that would be a true statement. However, the conventional wisdom that C2K traded pay for scope and is the point where we went off the rails... well, I'm not so sure about that one. Try the following on for size and see what you think:
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The 1990 contract had two pages of scope (actually 1.5) allowing the company to operate unlimited 70 seat and below aircraft (with no limits type, weight, propulsion or use). Somewhere in this time frame ASA was given permission to operate Bae-146's (96 seats).

The 1996 contract grew to 9 pages. Real improvements were made with regard to control of the company, merger protection, furlough, foreign carrier flying, and minimum block hours of international flying (limiting future international code share arrangements if the company dropped below the minimum number). A limit of 20 was placed on the Bae-146's (or any replacement jets in a 96 seat capacity). The limits on connection carrier flying was no more than 70 seats (again, no limit on type, weight, powerplant) for passenger use, and a weight limit of 70,000 lbs for cargo use.

The 2001 contract grew to 15 pages. New to the contract was:
-minimum block hours for all DAL flying,
-minimum block hours for connection carrier flying
-limit of 57 70 seat RJ's (weight limited to 85,000 lbs)
and up to 18 more RJ 70's (one more for each 10,000 hours of mainline flying over the annual minimum set by the contract),
-limit on 50 seat Rj's of 65,000 lbs
-limit of 70 seats/70,000 lbs on prop aircraft for any use (weight limit on passenger use was new).
-all connection carrier flying was subject to a ratio of mainline hours/connection carrier flying.
-Rj use restrictions on stage length, hub to hub flying, and logo/name use
-DAL not permitted to code share with company(s) that operate jets greater than 70 seats (and not to be used for DAL flying)
-Bae-146's and their replacements GONE
-increased international flying block hours (with new penalties for dropping below) and new restrictions on international code share/profit sharing.
-fragmentation protection
-prohibition of DAL training pilots for service in the event of a labor dispute on our code share partners (domestic and international) and vice-versa (e.g. DAL could not hire pilots trained by Comair of Air France in the event we were on strike).

2 provisions of the above were subject to economic resets:

-the minimum number of mainline block hours
-the ratio of connection carrier flying to mainline

No other provisions were subject to reset: meaning limits on 70 seaters (then at 57), weights, stage length, hub to hub were not part of the economic resets.

In the event that the economy or DAL failed to perform, then DAL was excused from those two provisions as written above. (These two provisions (as well as furlough protection) were also subject to "circumstance over which the company does not have control".) The first time either economic trigger occurred, there was a built in reset. The second time there was a provision to meet and confer to reset them again. We all know what happened in 2001 and that the triggers were met in 2001-2002. Twice. So what occurred next? DAL and ALPA did reset both provisions in the fall of 2002 as part of the NWA/CAL code share. FYI, it was the MEC that tied the two talks together as they both pertained to scope (the company asked to sever the negotiations to get a quick deal on the CAL/NWA deal).

Letter 46

-Reduced the minimum number of block hours and the connection carrier flying ratio.
-eliminated furlough protection, but required all furloughed pilots to be recalled by 8/1/2008
-reduced the international block hour flying
-allowed up to 125 70 seat RJ's (still covered by the ratio)



Letter 51
-eliminated minimum block hours
-eliminated minimum international block hours
-eliminated the ratio of mainline to connection carrier flying
-allowed connection carrier to fly up to 200 70 seat jets
-allowed connection carriers to operate 30 76 seat jets (covered under the limit of total greater than 50 seat jets)

You can search your present working agreement for todays limits on scope.

Large picture..sorry.

But, only one of these airlines still exists.... and probably the one airplane high fiving the airline that still exists is probably flying for said airline that still exists. :) (for a few more months...)

http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../5/2044538.jpg

For tsquare- Detroit Metro airport prior to DL acquiring NW:

http://i40.tinypic.com/2di3iqc.jpg


:p


for reelz though... look at how much oil those old propliners used to crap out. Wow.

There's so many depressing comments that picture begs for that I don't even know where to begin.

Great picture though. Love the Eastern A300. Would love to see a mainline widebody at LGA again in my lifetime.

Working for DL you can not only see one, but you can fly it in there. :) I've done it!

The 767-300 is a tight squeeze on those taxiways.

Ask for a coupon at the hotel bell desk - free drink with dinner.

Rikers Island sure is green that time of year.

The 49ers will shut him down at the Stick next Saturday