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My best friend is from Dallas, actually he returned there to live, but he CAN ski.
I understand you're point.
It just seems like there are two types who want a Texas hub and speak as those it's in the works or our near future:
1) those who commute to work from Texas and
2) those who live in Atlanta and think the West cost is a small market.

Makes me laugh. Texans and southerners are all the same, they are sure they live in the greatest place in the world.
It just seems like there are two types who want a Texas hub and speak as those it's in the works or our near future:
1) those who commute to work from Texas and
2) those who live in Atlanta and think the West cost is a small market.

Makes me laugh. Texans and southerners are all the same, they are sure they live in the greatest place in the world.

Gloopy, yes the economic situation is ugly, but when governments realize that their stay in power is about to end, trillions of debt from many nationals will be forgiven to keep those people in power. It is fiat money anyway, and its value is that which is believed. So far the ruse has worked and we work for paper and the value that governments assign it, and the markets that agree with them.
Here's how it can go - and has happened to me in NYC.
Sunday (off day): Check schedule at 1500, SC next day at 0500. Commute to NYC on day off.
Monday: SC from 0500 to 0500 on Tuesday.
Tuesday: End SC at 0500, no trip. At 10am, they assign SC for the next day. Surprise, you get it again! Can't commute home because I have SC the next day too early to commute in.
Wednesday: SC from 0830 to 0830 on Thursday.
Thursday: End SC at 0830, commute home only to find a 3 day trip on Friday. Report time? 0700. Turn AROUND, commute back to NYC.
Rinse, repeat.
Sunday (off day): Check schedule at 1500, SC next day at 0500. Commute to NYC on day off.
Monday: SC from 0500 to 0500 on Tuesday.
Tuesday: End SC at 0500, no trip. At 10am, they assign SC for the next day. Surprise, you get it again! Can't commute home because I have SC the next day too early to commute in.
Wednesday: SC from 0830 to 0830 on Thursday.
Thursday: End SC at 0830, commute home only to find a 3 day trip on Friday. Report time? 0700. Turn AROUND, commute back to NYC.
Rinse, repeat.
it SUCKS for commuters
i understand you're point.
It just seems like there are two types who want a texas hub and speak as those it's in the works or our near future:
1) those who commute to work from texas and
2) those who live in atlanta and think the west cost is a small market.

makes me laugh. Texans and southerners are all the same, they are sure they live in the greatest place in the world.
It just seems like there are two types who want a texas hub and speak as those it's in the works or our near future:
1) those who commute to work from texas and
2) those who live in atlanta and think the west cost is a small market.

makes me laugh. Texans and southerners are all the same, they are sure they live in the greatest place in the world.
god bless the homeland :d
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MEM320 at least till next month...... theres no flying going on in mem and they do it just because they can. we have 2-3 banks of flights a day there now and maybe 6-8 airbus flights a day on the airbus yet they keep stacking short calls. they staff shortcalls in mem like they do in dtw yet the base isnt a fraction of the size.
this ^^^^^^
it SUCKS for commuters
this ^^^^^^
it SUCKS for commuters
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Gloopy, yes the economic situation is ugly, but when governments realize that their stay in power is about to end, trillions of debt from many nationals will be forgiven to keep those people in power. It is fiat money anyway, and its value is that which is believed. So far the ruse has worked and we work for paper and the value that governments assign it, and the markets that agree with them. 

Before the necessary course corrections can be made, the debt addicts will do anything they can to take one more hit off the crack pipe and simply forgiving it won't fix it without a corresponding amount of pain. The latest trend is going bat dung crazy into debt by not calling it debt (like backstopping Freddie and Fannie on steroids) like the recent 12 figure FDIC committment on derivatives and we can be sure they will try more things like this in desperation to save the only status quo many even know.
Companies need to be fiscally responsibile, especially airlines. While we are investing wisely in some areas, like helping to build/fund NYC infrastructure at JFK and LGA, the new terminal in ATL, smart fleet refreshment on what I assume is a very good deal on the 100+ 73-900's, HVC enhancements and other things, I really hope we don't dump very much money into an arbitrary SLC mega hub. I like SLC and hope it stays around. But most of the flying we do there is a company choice.
Even if all of the funding for something like this is done by the airport and governments involved, there is still a cost to it and that cost will be passed on to the airlines that fly in and out of SLC. Ironically, this could end up applying more pressure rather than less for DL to move to a different arbitrary hub somewhere else to serve the west some day.
While we may enjoy having little fortress hubs here and there, DL has shown they are more than willing and able to gut them very quickly and turn them into "focus cities" that are mere shells of their former glory, with or without pilot bases remaining and in either case significant downsizing.
I just think SLC and DL would be better served right now by digging in with what we have there and investing only in necessary upkeep and reasonable customer ammenities. And like others have said, the ATC training thing could have a few knots worked out as well. But right now is a bad time to be dumping big money into SLC, wherever that money "comes from".
Here's how it can go - and has happened to me in NYC.
Sunday (off day): Check schedule at 1500, SC next day at 0500. Commute to NYC on day off.
Monday: SC from 0500 to 0500 on Tuesday.
Tuesday: End SC at 0500, no trip. At 10am, they assign SC for the next day. Surprise, you get it again! Can't commute home because I have SC the next day too early to commute in.
Wednesday: SC from 0830 to 0830 on Thursday.
Thursday: End SC at 0830, commute home only to find a 3 day trip on Friday. Report time? 0700. Turn AROUND, commute back to NYC.
Rinse, repeat.
Sunday (off day): Check schedule at 1500, SC next day at 0500. Commute to NYC on day off.
Monday: SC from 0500 to 0500 on Tuesday.
Tuesday: End SC at 0500, no trip. At 10am, they assign SC for the next day. Surprise, you get it again! Can't commute home because I have SC the next day too early to commute in.
Wednesday: SC from 0830 to 0830 on Thursday.
Thursday: End SC at 0830, commute home only to find a 3 day trip on Friday. Report time? 0700. Turn AROUND, commute back to NYC.
Rinse, repeat.
But now that we get 5 raw score points for SC that could at least help prevent the trip on Friday.
But of course we screwed that up and added buckets so as to return to a seniority based trip assignment system to favor those who couldnt understand the simplistic and fair raw score system that favored 3/4ths of the pilot group.
So the good of SC counting for points is completely negated by the seniority based buckets created to favor 1/12th of the reserve pilots and screw the other 11/12ths of the reserve pilots.
So the end result, this will still happen and SC still counts for nothing.
A friend of mine is an FO at a big LCC here in America... he relayed this encounter on his trip the other day...
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The flight attendant was telling me about her eleven year old cat with a heart condition. She just spent $5000 at the vet. I was trying my best to be sympathetic. The captain came over and she repeated her story. He blurted out "why didn't you just shoot the thing?"
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The flight attendant was telling me about her eleven year old cat with a heart condition. She just spent $5000 at the vet. I was trying my best to be sympathetic. The captain came over and she repeated her story. He blurted out "why didn't you just shoot the thing?"
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