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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1122498)
RA sure was short and to-the-point today. In forum world I think that means something big is about to happen.
Stock got the jump they needed to use it as collateral. The way the leak and the earnings above forecast both were timed tells me we are right where we need to be to go shopping. When the leak came out a few weeks before the earnings, I suspected our earnings were going to beat the street, as they did. Game on..... Might be a interesting ride for us. Just remember our cooperation should be worth a lot of money for our pilots. |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1122498)
RA sure was short and to-the-point today. In forum world I think that means something big is about to happen.
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Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1122333)
Couldn't Agree More
The Airline industry is the whipping boy of any politician of any persuasion. Call it what you will but the only airline out there with any sense of political good-will is Southwest. JetBlue used to have that same sense of public "admiration" before they lost control of the message. My guess is Southwest isn't far behind and will fumble on message with the upcoming AirTran integration. Just look at the sentiment towards their new higher density cabin or the general tone and reaction to the last few big "news" stories they came up in...(dressed to revealing/to big for the seat) On the other hand the PBGC as a creditor will have a say in what happens with AMR... Cheers George What you also fail to see is that LUV, LCC and DAL can work in concert on the AMR deal and everyone is seen as a winner, well at least though November. Airlines play a large, but generally silent part in politics. I do not see that happening this time around. Not with AMR in 1113C. Different game and different times. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1122501)
All I have to say is, Duh!
Stock got the jump they needed to use it as collateral. The way the leak and the earnings above forecast both were timed tells me we are right where we need to be to go shopping. When the leak came out a few weeks before the earnings, I suspected our earnings were going to beat the street, as they did. Game on..... Might be a interesting ride for us. Just remember our cooperation should be worth a lot of money for our pilots. |
Originally Posted by slowplay
(Post 1122364)
The point isn't about size, it's about work rules and how the new regs affect those rules. Delta's PWA mirrors the new regs in many areas. The analysis I've seen (and it's preliminary) run over Delta's current network requires a relatively small number of additional pilots. We're already overstaffed in total, just with pilots in "wrong" positions. No more 24 hour international short call drives some of the manning needs, as will the hard flight time limits (no more legal to start, legal to finish). Other airlines with substantially different rules designed for their networks/circumstances/history will have different issues. But I don't see how you get to a 7% increase in Delta manning with the rules as written.
The pilots said ES stated the "NEW" numbers were 750 newhires because of the rule changes, and he supposedly stated this at the last big linecheck meeting. (the DFW rumors supposedly came out of the "Lead" linecheck meeting that was even more recent.) I'm just passing along rumors from linecheckers, and if you want to deconstruct every rumor out there with your expert knowledge, have at it. Take it for what it is and what it was originally labelled as, a linecheck rumor. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1122496)
Wait, before we get too turned on by the heavy breathing, was it a man or a woman?
It does matter. :D |
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
(Post 1122506)
Interesting isn't always good, certainly not for the pilot group...another Duh! moment, I know.
Also, as I have said before, AMR is a once in a lifetime change to change the global map of airline alliances, and the domestic feed structure. It really is too big for someone like RA to pass up. I am sure we have a max price for each asset we will pay, and if it goes beyond that we jump. That said, I am sure RA has told UAL, LUV and LCC that unless they want to pay too much for what they will get, they all have to work together and play nice. We all go after what we agree to and keep the prices rational. I am sure that TPG is in the game to. The trick will to keep everyone honest. RA has a plan B if they do not want to play this straight. Again, we have to see growth out of this for the DAL pilots, not more stagnation. If this is done wrong, there is a possibility of that, and that is not something we want, not even for a 30% pay bump. It will make the pain less, but progression is the best key for success. On another note many of the 320's that they are talking about have about five more years on them. DFW is a geographic win for DAL. If they choose to go after all or part of it, it would bode well for larger lift to feed the domestic network. Read, less RJ's. |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 1122499)
no way to tell for sure but i'm thinking it was the chick asking the question, somebody with the company put her in her place though and told her to stop lol
it was a hot mic. :D |
wait, are we going to talk about rumors concerning where Delta might go or where Tsquares Peyton Manning might go? ;)
Football is great tv, but talking about football is riveting. I love the question though, is there anywhere you'd do organic growth!? |
I think we could press ACL for answers that RA wouldn't give.
So, where we going? |
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