Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122923)

When is SWAPA going to be there to provide the facts/details of our industry's leading pilot contract? Are they on the agenda for tomorrow? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122924)

Oh... and are the "DAL leaders" there to corroborate ALPA's EF&A analysis? Or is it the other way around? :eek:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1122926)

Our pay rates (including DC) have gone up by 27.5% on average in the same time frame and we added $750 million in merger stock. l tactics are great, I just need some history of success to back up those theories.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122923)

When is SWAPA going to be there to provide the facts/details of our industry's leading pilot contract? Are they on the agenda for tomorrow? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1122929)

Lets see how well SWAPA does now that they are facing higher costs and a rational playing field. If anything their "darling" status as an independent union is about to get tested.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1122925)

Air France-KLM Expects Deep Loss
BY DAVID PEARSON -- WSJ
JANUARY 25, 2012

PARIS—Air France-KLM's financial situation is "extremely tight" after the company incurred a substantial operating loss in 2011 for the fourth consecutive year, the chief executive of Air France, one of the Franco-Dutch group's two airline divisions, said Wednesday.

Alexandre de Juniac told a French parliamentary commission that due to rising fuel costs, fierce competition from low-cost airlines and the lingering effects of the financial crisis, Air France-KLM's losses from operations last year will reach "several hundred million euros," but declined to be more explicit as the company's accounts are still being audited. Air France-KLM is 15.7%-owned by the French state.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122933)

Please show your math on that.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1122937)

More flying for us????

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1122934)

I think they're worrying about future concessions. The airlines CASM continues to rise, while their PRASM continues to drop.

Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122940)

Possibly. But I'll bet they aren't worried about anything even remotely like 42%. Just as a point of reference, they would have to take about a 35% pay cut to come down (way down) to the W2 of a typical Delta narrowbody domestic pilot. :eek: