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buzzpat 04-24-2012 05:36 PM

Guys, we have to fix our PCS system. I tried to swap trips in May for the very same day and was denied for "Capped for reserves." I wanted to fly a longer trip which should, in theory, benefit scheduling and guys on reserve. Doesn't make any sense.

Timbo 04-24-2012 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1175144)
Guys, we have to fix our PCS system. I tried to swap trips in May for the very same day and was denied for "Capped for reserves." I wanted to fly a longer trip which should, in theory, benefit scheduling and guys on reserve. Doesn't make any sense.

I thought it would always let you swap, if it's over the exact same days (plus a day or two, if you are going to a longer trip)

UNLESS it's a spill-out type trip, into June?

buzzpat 04-24-2012 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1175151)
I thought it would always let you swap, if it's over the exact same days (plus a day or two, if you are going to a longer trip)

UNLESS it's a spill-out type trip, into June?

No, same day out and one day longer. Odd.

Timbo 04-24-2012 05:46 PM

I'd call screw scheds and ask them ***?

buzzpat 04-24-2012 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1175157)
I'd call screw scheds and ask them ***?

Yeah, I will....and the reserves required and available are the same for the out day. Should be a no brainer.

scambo1 04-24-2012 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1175143)
Glad we have some NWA guys to vote with us this time around.

I have no evidence to support this, and to a large degree, respect the more "militant" background of FNW pilots, but I think demographics within the pilot group are what will drive the vote...mostly.

Now I know that doesn't sound too committal, but how do you state it better.

There are a lot of moving parts...folks with frozen pension, the tiers of PC's from the pbgc, the stagnated narrow body Capt, the stagnated older FO, the older junior FO, the young former RJ pilot- now RJ is a disease - pilot, and a hundred other flavors.

We have had to adapt to lower pay for a long time. Some have cultivated other careers/jobs, some sold their toys and sucked it up, etc.

My only advice is: don't just look at section 3 payrates. Sure, look at it, but be a scope hawk, look at the work rules etc. Whatever TA is released to the pilots will be salespitched by DALPA...BE YOUR OWN EXPERT.

scambo1 04-24-2012 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1175151)
I thought it would always let you swap, if it's over the exact same days (plus a day or two, if you are going to a longer trip)

UNLESS it's a spill-out type trip, into June?

Timbo;

On the 777, that has been the case, but those times are changin. Disallowed swaps in may for us too due to reserves.

Express pilot 04-24-2012 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1175163)
I have no evidence to support this, and to a large degree, respect the more "militant" background of FNW pilots, but I think demographics within the pilot group are what will drive the vote...mostly.

Now I know that doesn't sound too committal, but how do you state it better.

There are a lot of moving parts...folks with frozen pension, the tiers of PC's from the pbgc, the stagnated narrow body Capt, the stagnated older FO, the older junior FO, the young former RJ pilot- now RJ is a disease - pilot, and a hundred other flavors.

We have had to adapt to lower pay for a long time. Some have cultivated other careers/jobs, some sold their toys and sucked it up, etc.

My only advice is: don't just look at section 3 payrates. Sure, look at it, but be a scope hawk, look at the work rules etc. Whatever TA is released to the pilots will be salespitched by DALPA...BE YOUR OWN EXPERT.

I don't need to be preached to. I will vote no unless 20% and scope changes. I'm saying a TA comes and everyone you fly with says it won't pass and it passes. Example why did we vote in the last TA after we got NW. It was the same TA we just got and DALPA told us we would get a better deal once NW was with us and DALPA brings us a TA with the same stuff with just minor gains. Green Slip and SC from 8 to 6. Vote that down. Its passed. Thats what scares me.

Boomer 04-24-2012 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1175081)
For you motor heads. <------ click

At 1:25 he says Delta.

And at 1:55 he says there's no money in Dubai.

Sink r8 04-24-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1175143)
Glad we have some NWA guys to vote with us this time around.

Why? Do they have a better record of voting against turds?


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