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We should invest heavily in Emirates for several years then short the crap out of them when their little housing bubble order book collapses. There is no way the whole world will fly hourly 380 service to every city in the galaxy which is what would have to happen for them, plus Qatar plus Ethiad plus the rest to get their massive growth order books.

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1175106)

I'm with gloopy though. There is NO way they will fill all of the WB's they've ordered. Ain't happening without cabotage.

They can afford to fly those 380's all over the world, at 50% capacity, with the price of jet fuel in the Middle East. :) What is it up to now, $0.50/gal of Jet A? :rolleyes:

Add insult to injury, isn't EK subsidized by the Royal Family/Government? I'm unaware of this fact, just asking out of curiosity?

GJ

scambo1

04-24-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1175169)

I don't need to be preached to. I will vote no unless 20% and scope changes. I'm saying a TA comes and everyone you fly with says it won't pass and it passes. Example why did we vote in the last TA after we got NW. It was the same TA we just got and DALPA told us we would get a better deal once NW was with us and DALPA brings us a TA with the same stuff with just minor gains. Green Slip and SC from 8 to 6. Vote that down. Its passed. Thats what scares me.

I wasn't preaching. I was writing as much for the lurker as I was for the regulars.

There can be no shortage of union "teaching" or we will never learn. How do you learn except to ask questions and get answers.

BTW I think you are setting your bar low on pay.

Express pilot

04-24-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1175172)

Why? Do they have a better record of voting against turds?

No, maybe they will help vote down a TA. See example above.

buzzpat

04-24-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1175157)

I'd call screw scheds and ask them ***?

Just talked to them....because the trip is one day longer and comes back on a day that reserves required = reserves available they deny it. Every other day of the trip has mega reserves available. I'd be operating a trip that essentially alleviates them of possibly one reserve being called and its denied. Whudda thunk?

scambo1

04-24-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1175177)

No, maybe they will help vote down a TA. See example above.

They passed the TA when we merged.

RiddleEagle18

04-24-2012 06:05 PM

I dont know if this has been discussed but the compass guys are hearing very solid info of the hiring window opening and flows starting in first quarter of next year.

Express pilot

04-24-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1175175)

Good, thats great to hear. Sounds positive.

Boomer

04-24-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gearjerk (Post 1175173)

Add insult to injury, isn't EK subsidized by the Royal Family/Government?

Subsidized by them? No.

Owned by them? Yes. 100%

Express pilot

04-24-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1175179)

They passed the TA when we merged.

True but they have turned down a TA in the last decade. Again what scares me is why would DALPA bring us that TA and push for it.

avi8tor220

04-24-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18 (Post 1175180)

I dont know if this has been discussed but the compass guys are hearing very solid info of the hiring window opening and flows starting in first quarter of next year.

Hopefully. Fingers crossed.

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