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Wasatch Phantom 03-05-2012 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 1146033)
Although I know there are many factors effecting a choice like this, I believe that's a really bad move considering the demographics of Delta Compared to Southwest/Airtran. In twelve years there will be around 800 of us facing mandatory retirement each year. Like changing lines in the grocery store.... You may get in line behind someone trying to cash a check from Katmandu.....

I agree, TC...

I was thinking it was like buying last year's best performing stock on the NASDAQ.

SWA has (in the opinion of many) been the place to be for the past several years but it sure looks like their glory days are coming to an end.

ImTumbleweed 03-05-2012 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1146016)
...and 20 years to upgrade. You've seen their retirement data?

If your primary focus is be a CA then I would agree.

If your perspective is "time value of money" then the choice to leave is understandable.

I applaud those leaving and wish them well.

Brocc15 03-05-2012 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1146039)
Nope not at all.. Why?

Just had some Qs, but if you aren't involved they wouldn't really apply, I'll send you a PM anyway

Timbo 03-05-2012 08:39 AM

When I look at SWA today, it reminds me a lot of Delta circa 1991. They have a new Leader, and just pulled a merger. DL had Mo'Ron, and bought Pan Am. Then Sadam invaded Kuwait, I don't have to tell most of you what happened next...

Today Isreal is talking about putting a smack down on Iran and we may get dragged into it. Oh, and gas prices are going up, wayyy up, just like 1991.

So...is there any reason to think the short term (5 years is short term to me) outcome won't be the same over the next 5 years for SWA, as it was for DL, 1991-1996?

Oh, and Kelly is already talking about being 'cost competitive', while their biggest neighbor is in Bankruptcy...what does that tell you?

tsquare 03-05-2012 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1146016)
...and 20 years to upgrade. You've seen their retirement data?

yup this^^^^

Coupled with no real growth for awhile...

acl65pilot 03-05-2012 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1146047)
Just had some Qs, but if you aren't involved they wouldn't really apply, I'll send you a PM anyway

I give you my opinion on what I know.

tsquare 03-05-2012 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Rudder (Post 1146027)
Who are we to judge the decisions of others T? I am glad people are choosing to leave this place, that is the only way the ones left behind can maybe get treated a little better. This company has had the luxury of everyone sticking around way too long in my eyes and that has been used against us so I for one applaud those decisions of others who have found greener pastures elsewhere, something which is getting easier to do these days.

It's just my honest opinion... and you know what they say about opinions.. Actually I couldn't care less.

Tomcat 03-05-2012 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom (Post 1146043)
I agree, TC...

I was thinking it was like buying last year's best performing stock on the NASDAQ.

SWA has (in the opinion of many) been the place to be for the past several years but it sure looks like their glory days are coming to an end.

Hey Wastch,

Better times than 2005! We may find ourselves in the right place at the right time. Hope you're enjoying flying the magic!

Thinking about bidding the ATLDC9A. Just need to ask one of those guys how they find the airport? Hope you're doing great!

TC

tsquare 03-05-2012 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed (Post 1146044)
If your primary focus is be a CA then I would agree.

If your perspective is "time value of money" then the choice to leave is understandable.

I applaud those leaving and wish them well.

The middle part of your post is the one that makes the most sense.. time value of money. I wish we at DAL could get a clue about that... I think we will, but it will take awhile.. so much for the "time" part....

JungleBus 03-05-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1146003)
Oh well... He made a mistake.

Perhaps...going to SWA is not the choice that I would make, but I have different priorities. Really, the fact that someone would leave DAL for SWA *despite* their impending lack of growth and 20 year upgrades is even more d@mning. I guess we'll know what the right choice was about 30 years from now. In the meantime, I'd like to see DAL pilots score a contract so good that only a complete moron would jump ship for SWA or any other airline. Under status quo, you'll continue to lose good people to places like SWA, FedEx, etc.


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