What could this possibly mean?

First off, if the Negotiating Team has been sequesterd, how do YOU know they haven't yet discussed Scope and Pay?

Second, we need to be calling our Reps NOW, because when the Negotiating Team brings it to them for a Vote, they need to shoot it down at that level. Once the MEC ratifies a T/A, then sends it on to us, it's too late. There are far too many sheeple who will vote Yes to what ever the MEC has ratified, and the excuse they always use is, "Well, they know more than I do, (because I was too lazy to stay informed and involved, or even show up, to a LEC meeting, or...etc.) and who am I to contradict them?

I have been hearing these same lame excuses ever since we got membership ratification in POS 1996.

We need to encourage everyone we fly with to call their LEC Reps. NOW, and tell them there is NO WAY we will allow MORE, and/or bigger, RJ's on the property, unless they are flown by Delta Pilots, on one list, on one contract.

Once the MEC ratifies it, it's over.

I'm calling my rep today, how about you? My first question is going to be, "WTFARK was O'Mally talking about? Spell it out for me, because he's being very vague."

They didn't feel loved as children, and only money fills the hole in their soul.

First read--1 conclusion:

Bend over boys and girls, here it comes!

If the company wants more 76 seaters, we can fly them right here at mainline!

Ahh... if you had only put an A before each Hole.

Then you could've said, we've got a lot of a holes around here.

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What you are saying is very reasonable and stands as a good backdrop. It is also reasonable that people feel ALPA is going to mess this up. Their track record is far from stellar and their poor historical performance has created reasonable expectations for continued mediocrity. To back up their frustrations, we hear the insiders managing expectations and slow playing in a time when the company is profitable and we should be expecting the best. If this is not the time to get a contract that is positive in every single category, then there will never be a right time.

Hello all, a quick dh question if I may. I have a spill trip with a red-eye dh on the first. My plan is to deviate on the 30th. First, you don't lose any credit hours on a deviate, right. And second, does the credit still pays like a normal spill trip since I'm backed deviating on the 30th rather than deadheading on the first.

Thanks

You're making that up. You have no idea.

Proof that your above statement is completely made up and pure BS.

Those updates were long ago.

Carl

DEEP BREATH BOYS:

Fly the airplane
Silence the bell
Identify the emergency
Read the checklist
DO NOT HURRY

Nwa guys know this, for our Delta Bro's that is the only memory items we had. Keep it simple and be methodical.

We control the outcome here and there is no reason to panic. Let's wait to see what they come up with and methodically break it down. This is not a vote on a ch11 contract or face a 1113 term sheet from a judge. Our company is doing very well, thanks in no part to our contributions. We don't HAVE to have a contract now. Would it be nice? Of course, but only if it has major improvements in scope and compensation and solid improvements in other areas.

Have faith in your reps, more importantly the Neg. team and yourselves. We have more ways to communicate now than any other time in history and that is what will make a difference this time. Lots of really smart guys on here(excluding yours truly) will analyze, disect and breakdown the TA(if there is one). If it does not address our needs as a group you vote no. I am sure that one of the really smart guys on here(ftb, bar, I am nominating y'all for this) can and will post a very simple breakdown in a table format that we can print up. We can take this on the line and educate the less involved/in tune pilots if there is a solid reason to vote no. Those of us on here are fairly in tune with what's going on but we are not the majority. Most just don't have time or care. It is up to us to provide a non emotional response on why turning down a raise today will be to our benefit tomorrow. A heated, emotional response WILL NOT convince the fence sitters that blindly trust ALPA. So relax, be ready and have a good weekend...

Sailing,

I think a lot of the guys here are not even considering rumors. I'm going strictly by the words (and missing words) in T.O.'s letter:

"... the rationalization of Delta’s fleet. Therein lies the opportunity..."

How else does our contract affect Delta's fleet mix besides through scope? I'm honestly asking...is there another way you read that phrase? Yes, perhaps we are spring loaded to be suspicious. There is good reason for that, driven by history. And if ALPA produces significant gains with no scope givebacks, they have my vote.

I appreciate your promise of a no vote if the TA contains any more 76-seat flying. It's good to know the senior guys are concerned as well.