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buzzpat 04-24-2012 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1175226)
I think you expectations are too low. :eek:

Agreed! 30%, scope regain, and work rule improvements! Or I'm a no.

acl65pilot 04-24-2012 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1175232)
Agreed! 30%, scope regain, and work rule improvements! Or I'm a no.

Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.

scambo1 04-24-2012 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1175241)
Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.

Right there with ya.

Buzz is cheap tho too, who da thot.

80ktsClamp 04-24-2012 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1175241)
Not going to state what my mins are but scope pay work rules and retirement are a must. Section 1 needs serious protections for us and if the company values constructive engagement they will be more than happy to agree to our demands.


We must pattern well above the top of the industry and we must have up side protections for when not if this company triples or quadruples its profits under this agreement.

We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.

here here!

or is it "hear hear?"

Well, regardless... what he said.

Free Bird 04-24-2012 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1175241)
We have leverage right now whether or not we think we do. All of this talk in the news about consolidation affirms my belief that once this deal is done the events start happening.

Going back a number of pages to the LCA meeting notes, someone mentioned the companies projection in the next few years is 2.5-3 Billion a year in profits! That's double what we're doing right now. It's time that more of the profits that Delta makes finds it's way into our pockets.

I agree, after AMR settles the US will have 4 large airlines and a few smaller ones.

Express pilot 04-24-2012 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1175226)
I think you expectations are too low. :eek:

I'll change that to two or three and go with 30%
Come out west with the family and stay with us. I'll take you up to Aledo to show you some land for our new hub.

scambo1 04-24-2012 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1175251)
Going back a number of pages to the LCA meeting notes, someone mentioned the companies projection in the next few years is 2.5-3 Billion a year in profits! That's double what we're doing right now. It's time that more of the profits that Delta makes finds it's way into our pockets.

I agree, after AMR settles the US will have 4 large airlines and a few smaller ones.

DAL is paying close to $1B/year right now for interest. That should back off to about $500M next year. This is one of the reasons the company wanted the early opener.

acl65pilot 04-24-2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1175251)
Going back a number of pages to the LCA meeting notes, someone mentioned the companies projection in the next few years is 2.5-3 Billion a year in profits! That's double what we're doing right now. It's time that more of the profits that Delta makes finds it's way into our pockets.

I agree, after AMR settles the US will have 4 large airlines and a few smaller ones.

Wrt to AMR and Parker. There is no deal with the creditors and UAL luv and DAL can still offer better deals than LCC for parts. This is not over. I still bet the creditors would like to see a better risk than what LCC is "currently offering."

acl65pilot 04-24-2012 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1175256)
I'll change that to two or three and go with 30%
Come out west with the family and stay with us. I'll take you up to Aledo to show you some land for our new hub.

Don't tempt me. All my neighbors already think I am prepping to sell.

acl65pilot 04-24-2012 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1175250)
here here!

or is it "hear hear?"

Well, regardless... what he said.

Also JV's and Code Share input on every deal with a manadarory production balance on any deal is logical for all parties. We need holding company protections and wording protecting us from a transnational transaction are mins. SJS needs a logical drawdown to logically return flying to the mainline and recapture true brand control. Structure the debt how you want but DAL employees are the only way to have true product control.


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