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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1123214)

Well nut, maybe I should hang out here more then. I'm going to let you in on a secret! Shhhh. Don't tell anyone, o. k.? Not a DPA member, really.

And go take a baby asprin before you stroke out. It's a forum genius.

Throw some stones, I don't believe you and don't think much of you.

The first 40-50 320's are older that crap, they are part of the -900 replacement order too is my understanding from the 320 LCA types-

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1123210)

Of course, it's also a question of timing. If the retirements occur faster, then we shrink for a while. If they occur slower than deliveries, we grow for a while, until we roll into another period of deliveries and retirements. So even the 15 number can feel like 0, just as much as it can feel like 50, at any given time.

Yep, I think so too. Depends on the economy and whether there are profitable routes for those 757s compared to the economics of the 737-900s.

Delta was going to get rid of the older 5500 series 757s, then someone decided we can use them to LAS and MCO. Must of been profitable to keep them on -> good for us pilots.

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Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 1122826)

Many folks that I fly with believe that we left some low hanging fruit on the tree with LOA 19 and the Joint contract. Yes, the merger would of happened anyways, we all realize that. What would not of happened however is the mess that is our scope clause. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the 255 70 seat RJ's would not of been allowed under our previous PWA. The Alaska codeshare would not of been allowed. No?

Other folks think that for our cooperation and sacrifices we should of gotten more pay up front. I can't argue with that either. Our leverage, was that they needed us to get this merger done right (scope, codeshare allowances) and we gave those allowances for minimal pay increases and we still allowed more outsourcing.

Looking to the future most guys want job protections in regard to the JV's and codeshare. Not a repeat of a contract with minimal pay increases only to see more flying outsourced.

I have a question for you. And this is not a grenade or flamebait.. but an honest question. If, as you (and others) believe that we left "low hanging fruit" in LOA 19 and the JCBA, how is it that you would a) identify said fruit, and b) find the step ladder that you need to get it? Hindsight is 20/20.. we all know that, and we always have the luxury of looking back and critiquing. How would you propose ensuring that we leave no fruit on the tree in section 6?

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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg (Post 1122832)

If a weak TA is even offered by ALPA, they are mostly likely GONE, and Slowplay and other MEC members KNOW IT.

Big words. Define weak.

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1122933)

Please show your math on that.

Even if he were exaggerating by a factor of 10, we are still above any of the others you mentioned.

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Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1123214)

And just to expand on this, and not for your sake nut.

DPA support is like playing with gas. It might not hurt you until there is a spark.

Like an AMR acquistion spark.

They have 10734 pilots. 10734 APA pilots whose back is up against the wall. Everyone remember what that feels like??. Put them along with 3,000 or so DPA pilots and we have a real Goat F%&* Jamboree. It would make the USAir/AmWest/USAPA saga look like a friendly company picnic.

That being said though, DALPA needs change desperately.

American Airlines asks to meet with its three major unions | Airlines and Aviation | Dallas Star-Telegram

I wonder what they'll talk about? Maybe changing from Pepsi to Coke? Color of the ties? Probably minor issues like that... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Stickman964 (Post 1123163)

Any reserve folks seen the new "Reserve Availability List" format now available in iCrew? You can select any calendar day in the future and the page format associated with the new rules that take effect next month has LOTS of new information shown.

Yes. It's really nice to be able to see where you sit more than 2 days out. While on topic, how many raw points will a SC period be worth? Just my 2 cents but I think the first raw bucket should be 0-50. 0-80 is going to be a huge bucket as there are often months where many pilots never even make it to 80 RAW.

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Originally Posted by contrails (Post 1122980)

Hold on a minute, just because DL doesn't have it [the A380] doesn't mean it's a POS...I have read writeups on sites such as flyertalk about passengers now trying to book themselves on a 380 given a choice when it's convenient...after riding on it myself I must agree -- it is superior to everything else out there. Only the 787 might be able to compete in terms of cabin comfort.

DL needs to order some, or some 747-800s!

First of all I don't think DL will ever order 747-800's. We will more likely be out of the 4 engine jet business before we do, although its possible. We will never, ever, see an A380 flown by DL pilots.

As far as the pax booking it I think 99% of that is pure emotional. Aviation geeks looking for cheap bragging rights and fluff for their "resume's of life" etc. The 747-800 that we'll never get is only like 40 or 50 pax smaller and even that is only because the double deck doesn't go all the way back to the tail. Put the two side by side and you can't tell a difference other than the 380 is significantly less sexy.

I don't think the 380 has the cabin altitude, humidity and lighting control that the 787 does but then again I don't see too many people plunking down much of a premium just for slightly less itchy skin on arrival.